[HN Gopher] Show HN: Celody - A Music Network State
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       Show HN: Celody - A Music Network State
        
       Author : toricalea
       Score  : 22 points
       Date   : 2022-08-02 18:02 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (celody.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (celody.com)
        
       | midenginedcoupe wrote:
       | https://celody.com/lifeTokens.html
       | 
       | Check out the "editing people" section.
       | 
       | Or
       | 
       | > Because digital people have data which can be changed using
       | tokens, they are capable of being unique entities. So you can
       | interact with them. You can spend your tokens to chat with them.
       | This chat is an artificial intelligence system that uses the
       | digital person's data to communicate with you in real-time.
       | 
       | So listen to endless streams of shitty auto-generated musak in
       | order to "earn" credit to spend on chatting to AI chatbots.
       | 
       | Sign me up!
        
       | woojoo666 wrote:
       | This seems to be mostly a game / art project where you listen to
       | music to gain in-game currency which you can use to manipulate
       | digital NPCs (like Sim City but with music).
       | 
       | There's other ways to earn tokens though. You can submit songs,
       | and if they get enough votes from other users, you get tokens. So
       | I guess this is a mix of a music streaming platform, and a
       | simulation game.
       | 
       | What a wild and weird concept. I'd love to see more art projects
       | like this.
        
         | ccamrobertson wrote:
         | > What a wild and weird concept. I'd love to see more art
         | projects like this.
         | 
         | Yes. This is a fascinating experiment; I would love to see the
         | code to understand if it approaches a true "decentralized
         | autonomous organization".
        
       | m00dy wrote:
       | People photos on the main page are deepfakes :)
        
       | midenginedcoupe wrote:
       | I'm getting strong Temple OS vibes from this. Has anyone checked
       | in on the creator of this site to see if they're OK?
        
         | unforswearing wrote:
         | Unfortunately Terry Davis died in 2018
        
       | CharlesW wrote:
       | "What is Celody? Celody is a network state powered by a new form
       | of music. By listening to infinite music streams, you generate
       | tokens that are used inside a musical universe of digital people.
       | In short, Celody is a world born from music."
       | 
       | These words don't mean anything. There may be an interesting
       | project in here, but it's impossible to say for sure. If the
       | creators are reading, you really need to figure out what's
       | interesting about this to your target audience.
        
         | ad404b8a372f2b9 wrote:
         | I think this talk explains it concisely:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpNgsU9o4ik
        
           | CharlesW wrote:
           | This perfectly encapsulates the problem.
        
         | m00dy wrote:
         | bingo...
         | 
         | >>> Celody generates tokens using a "proof of music" mechanism.
         | If you listen to Celody music for a random time period, tokens
         | will likely be generated. With this token, you can vote for
         | laws, elect politicians, change personalities, swap images,
         | mate people, chat, stake, buy stuff and more. The world is
         | constantly expanding.
         | 
         | You can do everything xD
        
           | uoaei wrote:
           | Ah, so it's the attention economy, implemented in BlOcKcHaIn,
           | folded in on itself until there is only a contrived utility
           | that has zero basis outside of the narrow context it creates
           | for itself.
        
           | robbrawkly wrote:
           | So basically Zombocom?
        
           | flashgordon wrote:
           | Hmm I got lost at "proof of". I wonder if this is validate of
           | tweet by PG about "old people dont like new things because
           | they consider them undignified" (or something similar).
           | Seriously I dont actually get this. I do work (listen to
           | music) to earn (coins) so I can do things? Isnt that what my
           | day job is supposed to be?
        
         | lotw_dot_site wrote:
         | You can obviously do soooo much with it, that my mind boggles.
         | As an example of how much _more_ you can do versus some other
         | things, I can only contribute a very boring example (involving
         | no musical universe at all) via  "Linux on the Web":
         | 1) Goto http://lotw.site/shell         2) At the prompt, enter
         | : import av && beep         3) Once your head starts pounding,
         | hit Ctrl+c
         | 
         | Now wasn't that boring! :)
        
       | wwwtyro wrote:
       | I assume this is an attempt at an implementation of Balaji
       | Srinivasan's Network State idea: https://thenetworkstate.com/
        
       | whoomp12342 wrote:
       | I so confused. Listen to music and get alt coins? is that what is
       | happening here? whats the catch?!?!
        
         | drcongo wrote:
         | I think the catch is that pretty much nobody would want to do
         | that.
        
       | TheOtherHobbes wrote:
       | I'd like to think this is approaching peak blockchain, but I
       | strongly suspect it really isn't.
        
       | pipeline_peak wrote:
       | There are more people creating virtual worlds and currency
       | systems than actually participating in them.
        
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