[HN Gopher] A Brief History of Peanut Butter (2021)
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       A Brief History of Peanut Butter (2021)
        
       Author : Tomte
       Score  : 51 points
       Date   : 2022-08-01 05:56 UTC (1 days ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.smithsonianmag.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.smithsonianmag.com)
        
       | taeric wrote:
       | This was a fun read, but it seemed to just stop.
       | 
       | I'm curious to hear what the total impact of crop rotation and
       | other items are on modern farming. I know we are always taught
       | that that is the correct way, and yet we also hear how there is a
       | single banana in main use. We even learn wines by the name of the
       | grape that is used. Is there more crop rotation in place than I
       | give credit for?
       | 
       | I feel that this goes to a lot of produce, honestly. There are
       | only two main lines of coffee. Tea is a single plant, if I'm not
       | mistaken. Avocado is rather homogeneous.
        
       | thebeardisred wrote:
       | I'm not sure how an American institution can talk about the
       | history of peanut butter in the US without mentioning Ruth
       | Desmond:
       | 
       | https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/food/1988/1...
       | 
       | She was the underdog who took on agro-industrial companies to
       | ensure peanut butter contained peanuts and not sawdust.
        
       | Naga wrote:
       | My parents are from Canada, and when my dad was in the Navy in
       | the 1980s, he was deployed to the UK. His biggest story is that
       | they couldn't buy peanut butter and Kraft Dinner except at the
       | Base, which was obviously a problem. I travelled to the UK
       | recently and asked someone there about those two items. Peanut
       | butter is available now, but not that popular, but Kraft Dinner
       | was unknown and frankly seemed disgusting to her! Which is fair,
       | but its comfort food in Canada.
        
         | whylo wrote:
         | > Peanut butter is available now, but not that popular
         | 
         | I might be an outlier but my family eats peanut butter all the
         | time, and you wouldn't have any trouble finding it even in
         | small local shops. Peanut butter and j(elly|am) sandwiches are
         | less popular but I maintain that they're America's greatest
         | export.
        
         | samatman wrote:
         | I wonder what confusion led to this, macaroni cheese (no `and`)
         | has been a British staple for centuries.
         | 
         | Boxed macaroni cheese can be purchased at every Tesco as
         | "cheesy pasta".
         | 
         | Judging it to be disgusting I would agree with, but 'unknown'?
         | By no means.
        
       | treeman79 wrote:
       | Anyone else find that Covid had a strong affect on the taste of
       | peanut butter?
       | 
       | Right after Covid in Nov of 2020 it started tasting like raw
       | sewage for me. I used to love it.
       | 
       | It's only somewhat improved since. Met a few people that won't
       | eat it anymore.
       | 
       | https://www.news24.com/amp/health24/medical/infectious-disea...
        
         | StevePerkins wrote:
         | Have you _had_ COVID, and experienced any of the loss-of-taste
         | symptoms?
         | 
         | Somehow, I've managed to avoid COVID. Or at least, the antibody
         | test that I took just before my first vaccination shot last
         | year indicated that I had never been infected. If I have had
         | any post-vaccination COVID infection, then it was totally
         | asymptomatic.
         | 
         | Peanut butter tastes no different for me today than it did
         | three years ago.
        
           | treeman79 wrote:
           | Got Covid, just before vaccine was available. Was in rough
           | shape for a month. Had to double blood thinner dosage for six
           | months.
           | 
           | Lost all sense of smell for a couple months. Got sense of
           | smell back over a couple months.
           | 
           | Peanut butter is the only food that changed for me though.
        
         | timbit42 wrote:
         | I wonder if it has to do with the hydrogenated vegetable oil
         | added to it. Do they still like raw peanut butter?
        
         | sweetheart wrote:
         | My coworker experienced that. They stopped eating peanut butter
         | entirely and they were bummed about it because they loved it
         | prior to having Covid.
        
       | matonias wrote:
       | Interesting, more a brief history of peanut butter in the US,
       | industrialised. Was curious what they have to say about the
       | Dutch. We eat a lot.
        
         | thenthenthen wrote:
         | Wikipedia mentions it comes from canada [0]. I had suspected an
         | Indonesian origin.
         | 
         | [0] https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pindakaas
        
       | PopAlongKid wrote:
       | >Kellogg's "food compound" involved boiling nuts and grinding
       | them into an easily digestible paste for patients at the Battle
       | Creek Sanitarium, a spa for all kinds of ailments.
       | 
       | That sounds similar to boiled peanuts (except without the
       | grinding), a favorite in the U.S. southern region. I've never had
       | them but would like to. According to Wikipedia, there are even
       | some claims that eating boiled peanuts not only circumvents
       | peanut allergies but can actually help reduce them.
       | 
       | I grew up with the Skippy-style peanut butter, but eventually
       | switched to the type which is nothing but peanuts and salt (no
       | sugar, no hydrogenation). Stirring in the oil is not that hard
       | with a reasonably-sized jar.
       | 
       | When I was a teenager (many decades ago) I tried to engineer a
       | cheap, nutritious diet for myself, and a cup of peanuts every day
       | turned out to be a great way to get a lot of protein for not much
       | cost. Still have PB sandwiches several times a week even now.
        
         | taeric wrote:
         | I'm a fan of boiled peanuts. Definitely recommend them if you
         | can get some. Just remember that it is like edamame, where you
         | don't eat the shells. :D
        
         | klipt wrote:
         | > a cup of peanuts every day turned out to be a great way to
         | get a lot of protein for not much cost
         | 
         | Probably similar to any other legume (lentils, beans,
         | chickpeas)?
        
         | pchristensen wrote:
         | Boiled peanuts are sooo good. The countrier the road and the
         | more beat up the pickup you buy them from, the better they're
         | going to taste!
         | 
         | Source: grew up in Pasco County, FL.
        
         | bnralt wrote:
         | Boiled peanuts are also popular in China. If you want to try
         | them, I suggest having a go at it. They're very simple to make.
        
         | obloid wrote:
         | A tip to keep the oil from separating: I add about 5ml of water
         | to a jar of peanut butter and stir in well. This creates an
         | emulsion that thickens the peanut butter and prevents the oil
         | from separating out. It improves the spreadability as well.
        
           | HelloMcFly wrote:
           | Another tip: store your unopened jar upside down.
        
             | PopAlongKid wrote:
             | I already do that.
        
               | ComputerCat wrote:
               | Save yourself a huge mess and don't try using an electric
               | handheld mixer to do the initial oil stir...I got peanut
               | butter EVERYWHERE. It's a nightmare to clean.
        
           | skrbjc wrote:
           | Or just stir it up and put it in the fridge
        
       | carapace wrote:
       | (BTW who is Tomte?)
        
       | phlakaton wrote:
       | Ah, yes, Skippy Peanut Butter: another erstwhile proud product of
       | Alameda, California--the town that brought you Perforce, and
       | which remains ready for all your nut-butter-addicted tech venture
       | needs.
       | 
       | (DISCLOSURE: Commenter received no consideration from the City of
       | Alameda for this comment.)
        
       | abusque wrote:
       | I'm surprised there is no mention of Marcellus Gilmore Edson [0].
       | He was a pharmacist from Montreal who patented a method to make
       | an early version of peanut butter, more than a decade before the
       | Kellogg's patent mentioned in the Smithsonian article.
       | 
       | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcellus_Gilmore_Edson
        
         | drpgq wrote:
         | Probably because it's the Smithsonian.
        
         | jklinger410 wrote:
         | A quick Google indicates there is some confusion about whether
         | Edson was a black or white man?
        
           | samatman wrote:
           | He's clearly white.
           | 
           | The other face you're seeing is George Washington Carver, not
           | surprising given that fin de siecle peanut science is a small
           | field.
        
             | jklinger410 wrote:
             | Reddit and Google Images seem to be teaming up to mix these
             | two up
             | 
             | - https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/f4op87/this_is_mar
             | cel...
             | 
             | - https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/89suoe/ti
             | l_c...
             | 
             | - https://www.google.com/search?q=Marcellus+Gilmore+Edson&s
             | xsr...
        
         | Finnucane wrote:
         | What's described in the patent sounds like the filling of a
         | Reese's peanut butter cup.
        
       | Synaesthesia wrote:
       | Really interesting in the end about George Carver who taught
       | sustainable farming techniques.
        
         | azekai wrote:
         | George Washington Carver is a personal hero of mine. He faced
         | all sorts of hardship and still sought to make the world a
         | better place.
        
           | le-mark wrote:
           | Everyone not familiar should read about him, very
           | inspirational.
        
       | not_a_sw_dork wrote:
        
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