[HN Gopher] Shimano 105 Di2: Delivers 12-Speed Shifting, Wireles...
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       Shimano 105 Di2: Delivers 12-Speed Shifting, Wireless Performance
       to More Riders
        
       Author : tosh
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2022-08-01 19:32 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | rektide wrote:
       | The aggressively closed & closed-minded behavior of Shimano,
       | their active legal pursuit of anyone else using the abundant data
       | here, turndd me off incredible from the company. One example:
       | forcing Hammerhead Karoo to remove support.
       | 
       | https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2022/05/shimano-forces-hammerhea...
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31604152 (257 points, 2mo
       | ago, 333 comments)
       | 
       | Bikes are such a pure & free thing. Im also a computer lover, but
       | computers are so easy to misuse for control & constraint, to
       | obstruct involvement. It's so sad to see bicycles- a symbol of
       | freedom & personal choice, one where standard(-ish) parts has
       | long been a thing- fall sway to the darker corporatistic evils
       | computing alas so often can encumber the planet with. Di2 is a
       | defiler of spirit.
        
         | lxe wrote:
         | Hammerhead got bought by SRAM, which is the primary competitor
         | of Shimano. It made sense for Shimano to remove support.
        
           | dabeeeenster wrote:
           | As a customer of both, it really didn't.
        
       | xhkkffbf wrote:
       | I like innovation and this certainly is clever. But do I really
       | need it? I agree that it can be hard to shift cleanly but after I
       | wiggle the levers a bit it all works out.
        
         | dabeeeenster wrote:
         | You never need to recalibrate your rear mech. Ever. This to me
         | is the best part of di2. You also never need to replace
         | dirty/old cables.
         | 
         | Di2 is amazing. If you do > 500km riding a year it's a
         | worthwhile upgrade IMO.
        
         | serf wrote:
         | road bike innovation is rarely _needed_ , it's mostly a step of
         | incremental small improvements that add up to a large quality
         | of life difference.
         | 
         | it's much more pleasant to ride a new age ergo-centric
         | composite bike than it is to ride a Gios from the 70s, for a
         | variety of reasons.
         | 
         | source : family bike shop; I don't ride myself.
        
         | simon1573 wrote:
         | It feels really nice though. They are always exact and all you
         | do is press a button, no lever action needed.
        
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