[HN Gopher] Ask HN: How do you practice math with your kids?
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       Ask HN: How do you practice math with your kids?
        
       They say if you want to foster reading in your household then you
       should read a lot. Read fiction, non-fiction...always have a book
       in your hand.  Can you treat math the same way you approach
       reading? Reading can be seen as a casual hobby and activity, but
       math doesn't appear to have that same level of casual approach.  I
       have young children and would like to approach math the same way I
       do reading. How do you practice math at home to foster mathematics
       in children the same way you can with reading?
        
       Author : acconrad
       Score  : 27 points
       Date   : 2022-07-31 17:40 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
       | Shared404 wrote:
       | Check out the Life of Fred series, those were helpful for me as a
       | kid.
        
       | 8bitsrule wrote:
       | Children have much to learn about how the world works. There are
       | many practical applications (ergo, relevant math problems) which
       | build/strengthen basic math skills _while_ teaching what children
       | need to know. (Some of the books in the lie-bury will probably
       | point in the right direction.)
       | 
       | Ideally the chosen practice will feature subjects individual
       | children are enthusiastic about, and are age-appropriate.
        
       | missizii wrote:
       | We are big fans of Bedtime Math: https://bedtimemath.org/
        
       | h2odragon wrote:
       | I've built things with my child, mostly carpentry; ranging from
       | doll beds to chicken pen and furniture and some other things.
       | Whenever possible we draw out plans and have her calculate angles
       | and distances and work up "bill of material" lists. Practical
       | math. Pythagorean theorem is far easier to remember when you have
       | a real use for it (how long do we cut this brace board?).
        
         | eimrine wrote:
         | You have describen practicing carpentry, not practicing math.
        
           | rowanG077 wrote:
           | Math, euclidean geometry specifically, is a core part of
           | carpentry.
        
             | eimrine wrote:
             | Core part of carpentry is functional hands, core part of
             | math is functional brains. If doing carpentry is considered
             | doing math, then playing some silly games also may be
             | considered doing math. I do not recommend going that shady
             | way of redefining definitions.
        
               | rowanG077 wrote:
               | By that definition a physicist is also not doing math.
               | Just because it's encapsulated in something else doesn't
               | make it not math.
        
               | gus_massa wrote:
               | For kids, it's easier to make activities with applied
               | math. So my abstract advice is to offload some of the
               | mathly part of the activity to the kid in spite it may be
               | obvious for the adult. It can be applied to carpentry, or
               | cooking, or whatever is your (kid) favorite activity.
        
               | nodra wrote:
               | What happens when you don't involve math in carpentry?
        
           | MisterMower wrote:
           | Yeah, and programmers don't practice logic. Got any other
           | zingers for us?
        
       | gus_massa wrote:
       | How old are your kids?
       | 
       | Try to find math problems everywhere. Let's say you are making a
       | cake (a real one, nor an imaginary one) if you must put 5 eggs in
       | the cake and you already put 3, how many more must you add?
       | 
       | My old daughter used to play 6x6 sudoku. It's the closest thing
       | to math in mainstream. Note that the strategies to play 6x6 are
       | the same than in 9x9, but the best order to apply them is
       | different. It's a nice game because you must make a lot of
       | inferences and keep very clear what you really know and what you
       | wish were true.
       | 
       | There are a few books with math problems for kids, but don't know
       | any translated to English. One book that has some math stories is
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Counted It's doesn't
       | have too many problems for the kid, but it has a few problems
       | that the protagonist solves. The numbers that appear in the
       | problems are extremely well selected to create coincidences that
       | the protagonist must solve.
        
         | kakariko wrote:
         | Not a bad advice but I highly recommend not using eggs as an
         | example since it teaches kids that eating animals or animal-
         | based food is correct. Bringing a kid to this world is already
         | a terrible idea for the environment, ideally they should eat
         | something else (and hope they don't have kids of their own!).
        
           | MisterMower wrote:
           | I bet you're fun at parties.
        
           | Cypher wrote:
           | What if I like eating animals, is it cool to let them do the
           | same?
        
           | bitlax wrote:
           | What's sadder: this troll post or your excitement at creating
           | an account just to do it?
        
           | hellojesus wrote:
           | Not killing yourself is also terrible for the environment.
           | I'll cut out my eggs, so long as you make the first move.
        
           | tasuki wrote:
           | You're kind of right of course.
           | 
           | But, I have to wonder, do you plan to post this under any
           | comment that mentions anything non-vegan? That would seem
           | rather tiring? Why not start with the steaks, why pick on a
           | person mentioning eggs as an example? Their comment was not
           | even _about_ eggs, eggs were just mentioned once...
        
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       | akomtu wrote:
       | The valuable part is abstract math, thinking in symbols, not
       | counting 2+3. A good old way to teach is to invoke a surprise, as
       | it grabs attention, and then explain. So you'll need easy
       | problems, but with surprising solutions. One that comes to my
       | mind is the old story where a simple man asked a king a simple
       | favor: put one grain on the first square of a chessboard, put
       | twice that much on the next square, twice more on the next square
       | and so on until the board is filled. A categorically different
       | understanding of math happens when you learn what a proof is, but
       | I'm not sure how to make this problem interesting.
        
       | dimitar wrote:
       | Recreational mathematics - games, puzzles and toys are what you
       | are looking for.
        
       | gamerDude wrote:
       | I would encourage you to see math as larger than computation. But
       | rather math as a way to model the world with numbers. That way
       | math is everywhere and has a more casual approach.
       | 
       | Everything that has a rate is mathematical. Water flow, mph, # of
       | chocolate chips per cookie, etc.
       | 
       | Then statistics and estimation is everywhere too. About how many?
       | What do you estimate ____ is? Is there a way we could get more
       | accurate with the guess?
       | 
       | Cooking, Buildings, Traveling, eating, nature, social media has
       | math everywhere.
        
       | ALittleLight wrote:
       | I suggest an abacus. It's a fun way to concretize mathematic
       | operations. You can learn to represent up to ten digit numbers on
       | the abacus, then do addition, then multiplication and division.
       | Once you're multiplying numbers you can start to learn shortcuts
       | to make using the abacus faster.
       | 
       | I think the abacus is a fun addition. We keep one on the counter
       | where we eat breakfast. It's fun to just pick two three digit
       | numbers and multiply them out.
        
       | aoki wrote:
       | Beast Academy. The books, not just the practice website. Most
       | kids love stories and characters and corny jokes and detailed
       | Waldo-esque cartoons and cultural references. For some, that
       | makes the "productive struggle" of learning problem solving more
       | palatable. My elementary school kid thinks a lot about whether he
       | wants to be like Grogg, Winnie, Alex, or Lizzie in the future.
       | 
       | The 1st and 2nd grade books may be too hard for many kids to read
       | on their own (math has big words and long sentences - even
       | curricular materials like EurekaMath seem to be written above
       | grade level for K-2) so it becomes family reading time as well.
        
       | Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote:
       | Strategy/tactical board games have a lot of math, which is the
       | main reason I can't play them with my 3 years old
        
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