[HN Gopher] Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job pos...
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Tell HN: LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings into
company profiles
I work at a company that is not actively hiring, so imagine my
surprise when I see 5+ job postings on my company's LinkedIn page.
It appears that LinkedIn is automatically importing job postings
from other places on LinkedIn and other sites such as angel.co if
the company name of the job posting matches your company name on
LinkedIn. After importing, the job postings will display your
company logo, company description, profile pictures of your
connections that already work there, etc, just like a real job
posting. The "Apply" link redirects to the original job posting
such as from angel.co. The only reason I was able to tell these
are not legitimate is because the descriptions of the posts clearly
describe a different company. So it seems to be a phishing
opportunity is to create a profile on LinkedIn or angel.co with a
company name that matches your target company. Write some job
postings with descriptions that look like a job posting that the
company would actually hire. And now those job postings will be
reposted onto the official LinkedIn pages of the company, and
applicants will be redirected to your phished webpage.
Author : gurchik
Score : 295 points
Date : 2022-07-31 17:07 UTC (5 hours ago)
| timvisee wrote:
| I have 'Hibernated' my profile a month ago. I've never felt
| better. I recommend others to do the same.
|
| It won't permanently throw away your data, allowing you to revert
| if you so desire.
| IceWreck wrote:
| Ironic that Linkedin hates people who scrape their site which is
| nothing but user generated content yet they do the same.
| sirsinsalot wrote:
| One rule for them, another for us. Same old, same old.
| MichaelCollins wrote:
| Scraping for me, but not for thee.
|
| https://news.bloomberglaw.com/privacy-and-data-security/link...
| [deleted]
| CoastalCoder wrote:
| LinkedIn may be less hypocritical than it first appears:
|
| February 2022: LinkedIn sue Mantheos.
|
| April 18, 2022: TechCrunch runs an article [0] stating that a
| U.S. appellate court affirms the legality of scraping publicly
| available data.
|
| So IIUC, LinkedIn was consistently playing to the apparent law.
|
| EDIT: oops, forgot the link!
|
| [0] https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/18/web-scraping-legal-court/
| tedmiston wrote:
| That gives rise to a decent conspiracy theory: LI sued to
| pave the road for LI themselves to scrape en masse.
| dijonman2 wrote:
| Citation for TechCrunch article missing.
| MichaelCollins wrote:
| Linkedin has always been a shitty company, so I bet they've
| been scraping the entire time.
| tedmiston wrote:
| [0]: https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/18/web-scraping-legal-
| court/
| gip wrote:
| I was working at a recruiting startup years ago and we got a
| cease & desist letter from LI asking us to stop crawling
| their _public_ data.
|
| Initially crawling them was very easy (we had ~100m
| profiles). With time crawling became harder and harder on the
| technical front. They obviously invested millions of $ in
| technology to stop being crawled.
| reset-password wrote:
| If this is the case then I wonder what happens in the event that
| LinkedIn's scrapers make a mistake and dont't parse the salary
| range on a job post, and then publish that post in a jurisdiction
| that requires one like Colorado. Would LinkedIn be opening
| themselves up to liability?
| la64710 wrote:
| LI is the new FB. Every message is about the poster's social or
| political messaging or gloating about their altruism. All to get
| few more likes just like Febu.
|
| The unprofessionalism of the whole site is very repulsive.
| windexh8er wrote:
| So... Lemme get this straight. LinkedIn is cool with "scraping",
| and as of recent is now suing and publicly showing how proud they
| are of such practices [0] - look we protect our users! Yet, not a
| double standard when they engage in the practice deceptively?
| Microsoft is still a shady company through and through.
|
| https://news.linkedin.com/2022/may/an-update-on-scraping
| [deleted]
| rsweeney21 wrote:
| This has been happening to us for over a year. We contact
| support, the posting gets removed, and then a few weeks later it
| is back. It's infuriating.
| rsweeney21 wrote:
| We've also had a HUGE influx of fake accounts in the past
| couple of months claiming to work for our company. According to
| LinkedIn we have 243 employees! In reality, we have 23.
|
| See for yourself:
| https://www.linkedin.com/company/facetdev/people/
|
| How are these accounts not being automatically flagged as fake?
| twobitshifter wrote:
| Is there employment verification on LinkedIn at all? They
| don't go back and check everyone's references, their listed
| university, skills, or certifications, do they? I think as
| with resumes, it's really easy to lie, and it's up to others
| to cross-check things.
| fartcannon wrote:
| Don't forget: LinkedIn is owned by Microsoft. Just like Github.
| ncr100 wrote:
| Someone wants to be our (tech worker's) friend..? MS as a tech
| labor hub?
| abirch wrote:
| Preface: I hate LinkedIn
|
| Do we know that in fact LinkedIn is scraping? Could it be that
| the LinkedIn data science team is erroneously matching company
| names with job titles that are added to its website? E.g.,
| someone from YMCombinator posts a page to LinkedIn and puts the
| application link to angel.co. Then LinkedIn mistakenly sees
| YMCombinator as YCombinator and adds the logo (no scraping
| involved).
| arcturus17 wrote:
| Whatever you think of LinkedIn's or Microsoft's ethical
| standards this would be so comical - and could piss off so many
| major LinkedIn large customers - that it warrants alternative
| hypotheses like yours.
| smt88 wrote:
| LinkedIn may or may not be scraping. Just remember that
| scraping is a pejorative word for what Google does, also known
| as "indexing".
| ramtatatam wrote:
| This is the reason why I never click the hyperlinks on LinkedIn
| (or anywhere else, including my email, also including hyperlinks
| allowing me to unsubscribe from services etc.) while in my main
| browser. Always sending them to incognito browser. If it requires
| me to be logged in then I just shrug my shoulders and not view it
| again. That's because I (as somebody who is not an expert in
| security) can't tell what those long hyperlinks are meant to do
| or if I can trust the target website.
| mrintegrity wrote:
| If i understand your description of what you do correctly, then
| clicking the email links in incognito mode does not help you in
| any way. The long weird url is almost always a tracking link
| unique to the specific email that you received. Clicking it
| verifies that you received and read the email sent you _your_
| email adress, no matter where you click it
| charcircuit wrote:
| The long weird URL lets you unsubscribe without having to log
| in
| ramtatatam wrote:
| When I decide to click on the link then I accept the other
| side will know I clicked on that URL. What I tried to say was
| that I am always a bit worried that by clicking on a link
| there will be a chain of redirects or some click-jacking
| technique (or anything else) that in result will take over
| one of my accounts which I'm keeping logged in on my main
| browser (i.e. google, or LinkedIn)
| cmeacham98 wrote:
| I'm not particularly sure I understand. You're worried that
| because the URL is long that it might somehow take over
| your google account? I'm not quite sure I understand the
| correlation between "long URL" and redirects/clickjacking.
| ramtatatam wrote:
| Looks like I structured what I tried to say in wrong way,
| sorry about that, English is not my mother tongue and
| sometimes I try to say too much in one sentence. I
| generally don't trust hyperlinks sent to me when pointing
| at source I have never seen before. I open such URLs in
| private session.
| reaperducer wrote:
| Sounds like a good way for some clever person on HN to add fake
| job listings to LinkedIn and Microsoft's profiles.
| jacquesm wrote:
| Linkedin has been ripe for disrupting for more than a decade but
| nothing ever does.
| TedShiller wrote:
| LinkedIn is a spam company
| hash872 wrote:
| Indeed has been doing some version of this since at least 2013,
| to my knowledge, and probably before. Google Jobs or whatever
| they're calling it does this exact thing as well (I mean I'm not
| defending the practice, simply noting that this is the norm among
| job posting sites)
| tedmiston wrote:
| Do you have a source for that?
|
| Google Jobs' site [1] suggests the data sources are likely from
| integrations with other platforms (2).
|
| > There are two simple options to make sure your jobs appear on
| Google.
|
| > 1. I post or aggregate jobs on my website - ...
|
| > 2. I use a third-party to post jobs - Check to see if your
| job provider is already participating in the job search
| experience on Google.
|
| https://jobs.google.com/about/
| smcl wrote:
| They seem hellbent on having a rotten reputation. I do not know a
| single person who likes it other than recruiters (who all tell me
| they're upset about people not replying to their out-of-the-blue
| messages). Every developer I know either simply dislikes the
| LinkedIn experience, or knows about the company's shitty
| behaviour and despises the company (to the point of deleting
| their profile or not signing up).
|
| Surely this kind of thing will _eventually_ come back to haunt
| them?
| pyb wrote:
| Linkedin succeeds because most companies suck at recruiting so
| much, that this bottom-feeder behaviour by recruiters and
| Linkedin actually gets people hired, much faster than they
| otherwise would be. Recruitment agencies and their cheesy,
| ignorant reach-outs are actually what gets the market going.
| This is because hiring managers at tech companies don't want to
| do the job themselves, even though they'd do a lot better.
| A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
| This is exactly the issue. As sucky as LinkedIn is, it
| actually did result in better results for me than average HR
| department at a given company. That should not be the case,
| but so very often it is.. therefore, LinkedIn remains one of
| the viable options.
|
| I am relatively lucky, because I am now old enough to have
| friends, colleagues and some reputation so I do not need it (
| amusingly, my profile was flagged for something recently and
| I have not looked back ), but I remember when I did and
| recruiters were the least painful way to get my foot in the
| doors
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| divbzero wrote:
| My hope that Microsoft's professional oversight would be a
| healthy moderating influence has not panned out.
| jacquesm wrote:
| HN humor at its best.
| TedShiller wrote:
| You might notice that Microsoft has destroyed all of its
| acquisitions
| nsonha wrote:
| tell me how you find job posts, do you disklike the concept of
| a search engine for jobs?
| f6v wrote:
| I have the opposite experience. I don't get any messages from
| recruiters after having set the appropriate preferences. And I
| use LinkedIn to connect to relevant people in my field.
| mostlyghostly wrote:
| My recruiter invites have been dropping at a exponential rate
| once I passed age 45. LinkedIn is apparently a fairly
| efficient platform for age discrimination.
| wyclif wrote:
| One way to mitigate that somewhat is to never put your age
| online. I plan on being 39 for as long as possible.
| t_mann wrote:
| Your CV kinda gives it away though...
| derekbaker783 wrote:
| Drop everything beyond N years...
| tedmiston wrote:
| Consider yourself lucky.
|
| I get hundreds per year.
|
| Maybe 1 in 50 are decently relevant.
|
| Many are mass spams. A good amount will be in tech I have no
| interest in, haven't worked in in over a decade, or have
| never worked in. It's clear the messages are sent without
| ever actually reading your profile or even job titles.
|
| I wish there were a way to control only the handcrafted /
| non-spam messages reaching my inbox.
| reillyse wrote:
| I have a PhD and so have Dr as my first name on LinkedIn.
|
| All the automated messages address me as if Dr was my
| actual first name, So "hi Dr" or "Dr,..."
|
| So it's a good filter for all the machine created messages,
| which is a very very high percentage of them.
| jjulius wrote:
| The ones that really grind my gears are the ones that
| clearly guessed your current work email address based on
| your LI profile and standard business email username
| formats.
| tedmiston wrote:
| Oh for sure. I bet `<first name>@<small company>` or
| `<first.last>@<company>` goes a very long way.
|
| There are seem to be some techniques for verifying
| existence of an email address without actually emailing
| it.
|
| https://stackoverflow.com/questions/565504/how-to-check-
| if-a...
|
| I tried the below services with a custom G Suite domain
| and, to my surprise, they successfully worked, even for
| addresses that I know have never been posted publicly
| (!).
|
| https://email-checker.net/validate
|
| https://clean.email/verifier/how-to-check-if-an-email-is-
| val...
| boredtofears wrote:
| Yeah, I really don't have that much of a problem with
| LinkedIn. It definitely seems like they do scammy things, but
| I don't really notice since I really only login to it when
| I'm looking for a job. When I set my preference from "not
| looking" to "actively looking" or even the "casually looking"
| option (forgot what it's called), the flood gates get opened
| wide. Then it's pretty much just like picking a job from a
| job tree because there's usually so many options from
| recruiters. Then I turn it off, and the emails pretty much
| shut down (once in a while one or two seems to trickle
| through somehow, which is annoying but not that bad).
|
| For my intent it kinda works the exact way I want it to, but
| I really only ever login when I'm looking for a job.
| sunsunsunsun wrote:
| I wish I had this problem. I get maybe one or two messages
| from recruiters a month.
| shafyy wrote:
| I've deleted my LinkedIn profile years ago because it was
| annoying as hell.
| gtirloni wrote:
| _> Surely this kind of thing will eventually come back to haunt
| them?_
|
| I doubt it. Network effects matter and nobody is switching from
| LinkedIn for fear of missing out. There is no other work-
| related social network like it.
|
| It's different with FB/Instagram that there isn't much at stake
| so people will just switch to test something and then stay.
| With LinkedIn, the "what if I miss a job opportunity?" factor
| means there's pressure to ignore the UI issues and just stick
| it out.
|
| I don't see a disruptor in this industry, do you know of any?
| TameAntelope wrote:
| I see "network effects" cited so frequently as this
| impenetrable fortress, but... literally every site that now
| has "network effects" had to fight them to exist, so it seems
| kind of odd...
| gtirloni wrote:
| When LI started, it didn't have much competition so it was
| easier.
|
| Network effects is not an impenetrable fortress. It just
| means your product has to have a really good reason for
| people to switch, and I dont see anyone in the work network
| space doing anything really better than LI. I wish someone
| was.
| monkeydust wrote:
| How about a video only (or video first) network -
| companies can promote but has to be videos. Tiktok meets
| LinkedIn (!)
| TameAntelope wrote:
| That's my point; nobody tries because harpies screech
| "network effects" every time it's discussed...
| nr2x wrote:
| We talk about exponential growth a lot more than
| exponential collapse. Historically, social networks
| collapse as quickly as they grow. Even mighty Facebook
| recently hit the peak, and in their most important markets
| the network effect is utterly collapsing.
| raunak wrote:
| Blind would be a cool one but it kinda defeats the purpose.
| encryptluks2 wrote:
| I did. I deleted my LinkedIn account. Too much spam. My
| personal information was constantly being shared despite
| telling LinkedIn I didn't want them to. I still get a few
| emails per week where they shared my email address with
| recruiters. I'd rather not work with recruiters anymore at
| all. In the future the best opportunity will be from my
| website or direct contact.
| patrickkidger wrote:
| From personal experience: possibly Twitter. Having a presence
| there has given me several serious offers to interview, for
| jobs worth having (FAANG and similar).
|
| The folks in my field (ML/applied math/scientific computing)
| are all on there, and moreover those reaching out to me are
| always technical folks rather than recruiters.
|
| (Twitter gets a bad rap, but the academic/dev parts of it are
| the single best way I've found to track the Zeitgeist of
| fields and topics I'm interested in.)
| kingkongjaffa wrote:
| I had the opposite experience.
|
| 'tech twitter' is full of junior developers, developer
| advocates, and students, all trying to sell e-books to each
| other or virtue signal their way into a dev advocate role.
| I only found content creator and tech influencer sales
| pitches.
| cyberlurker wrote:
| This is definitely true, but then I also see more
| experienced developers and researchers tweeting about
| these people making fun of them and calling them on their
| bullshit.
|
| I think tech Twitter quality is heavily dependent on
| being thoughtful of who you follow.
| oriettaxx wrote:
| > Every developer I know either simply dislikes the LinkedIn
| experience, or knows about the company's shitty behaviour and
| despises the company (to the point of deleting their profile
|
| omg, I had that feeling too (and I actually removed my
| profile): good: I thought I was alone :)
| vlunkr wrote:
| To be fair, who ever wanted a work-based social media platform?
| People have accounts because it's expected as part of the
| recruiting process. The only people I see posting on there are
| embarrassing "workfluencers" sharing each other's content into
| the void.
| abirch wrote:
| It seems like it should be easy to replace LinkedIn but no one
| seems to do it. I've looked at Xing and a few others. I loved
| the premise of LinkedIn but you can't forward messages any
| more.
| ska wrote:
| > it should be easy to replace
|
| Often network effects dominate this sort of thing, so that's
| probably not true.
| abirch wrote:
| You're right about the network effect.
| brightball wrote:
| Honestly, this feels like a natural reaction to the ruling that
| they couldn't stop people from scraping their site.
|
| They probably just decided, we may as well do it too.
| pwim wrote:
| Google has been encouraging job boards to add structured data to
| job postings:
| https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/structure....
| LinkedIn is presumably using this data to pull the postings in.
| neilv wrote:
| Are you confident that LinkedIn itself is doing that, rather than
| some recruiter working for or targeting that different company?
|
| Or a recruitment SaaS that recruiter is using?
|
| (Recruitment seems to be numbers game for a lot of people. And
| I've noticed a few questionable integrations and duct-tape
| workflows going on around LinkedIn. I wouldn't be surprised if
| the phenomenon you noticed was an accident of one of those.)
| glouwbug wrote:
| What's the difference? The end product is the same - OP's
| privacy is still undermined
| lupire wrote:
| erichdongubler wrote:
| You're right that the end impact is the same for OP. I don't
| think GP is arguing that this should necessarily soften
| consequences. It's pretty important to know who is
| responsible for this outcome and what consequences can fix
| the situation, though!
|
| I believe GP's intended direction was that there may be very
| different conversations there depending on whether this is
| (1) a platform potentially abusing its users vs. (2) a
| platform's _user(s)_ potentially abusing other users.
| gurchik wrote:
| First of all, I believe it is a LinkedIn feature because I came
| across an article on the LinkedIn knowledge base site about
| this feature 2 weeks ago. Unfortunately I can't find it
| anymore... It's very frustrating how searching Google for
| anything related to LinkedIn reveals dozens of pages of SEO
| spam but I digress.
|
| I'm hoping someone else can find the article I read. What I
| remember about it was: It said it was a beta feature gradually
| being rolled out, but if you wanted access sooner there was a
| link to contact LinkedIn to enable it for your company. The
| other thing I remember from the page is that it said it would
| automatically import 2 jobs per month for free, which is good
| because this is in addition to the 1 free job you can post per
| month.
|
| Secondly, if I dreamt about this article or something and this
| isn't actually a LinkedIn feature, then I apologize as the
| title and content of my post is misleading. However it is still
| a problem that somehow other companies are able to post jobs on
| your company's official LinkedIn that link away from LinkedIn
| to another page.
|
| I'm sure there's a way to opt-out of all of this (or at least
| I'd hope so). The problem is that we didn't _opt_in_ which is
| why I think people need to know.
| [deleted]
| cj wrote:
| Glassdoor does this too.
|
| It's particularly frustrating because there's an Israeli company
| with a very similar name as ours, so all of their out-of-country
| posts constantly get attached to our company's profile (along
| with a bunch of negative reviews complaining about the
| cleanliness of the on-site bathrooms, yet we are a 100% remote
| company with no offices)
|
| It was a major struggle to get those reviews removed.
| aaur0 wrote:
| A bit of tangent, but it reminds me of a funny story:
|
| I discovered one day that I am getting recommended "Long distance
| truck driver" jobs through email and some of the re-targeted ads.
| First, I ignored them, but in a week or two, it became apparent
| that it was not just a coincidence. After some research, I
| realized that I had listed "Device Driver" programming as a skill
| on my LinkedIn and personal website. I suspect it must have been
| crawled, and the word "Driver" was matched to send me those
| recommendations.
| reaperducer wrote:
| Maybe add "Function hooker" to your profile and see what
| happens.
| languageserver wrote:
| "Oracle expert"
|
| 2 weeks later: See your new recommendations for job
| opportunities in Delphi!
| cruano wrote:
| Surely you means 2 weeks before
| oneoff786 wrote:
| Fuzzy matched to NAICS titles perhaps. I've gone through that
| jumble and "Driver" had so many edge cases
| RheingoldRiver wrote:
| Haha I got suggested for "freight" and "shipping" due to having
| "Cargo" (the MediaWiki SQL wrapper, not the package manager)
| listed on mine.
| motbus3 wrote:
| there lots of scammers who do it. it is probably nothing from
| linkedin team itself.
|
| you may want to apply for the job to see what happens
| ilrwbwrkhv wrote:
| A cool hack I have found is that those developers who do not have
| linked in profiles are usually better developers.
| LAC-Tech wrote:
| I've been thinking it's time to start moving away from that damn
| site.
|
| - If I actually want to start conversations, I get a lot more
| comments on HN or Reddit
|
| - When I was a job searcher, the idea of just being able to apply
| from my profile was really cool. Except every job just re-
| directed you to some form that wanted you to upload a resume
| anyway.
|
| - Of the handful of potential clients who have found me there,
| none have ended up signing a contract. Better odds just talking
| on random slack channels.
|
| - It's getting more and more cringe. Call me a prude but it's
| really tacky when people post photos of stuff like their wife and
| their baby asleep on the couch. Do you really want to post your
| families intimate moments to get likes on a "professional" social
| network?
|
| - If I'm honest with myself I realise that I just replaced my
| addiction to one blue site (FB) with another.
|
| Anyway add me on LinkedIn!!
| https://www.linkedin.com/in/lewisandrewcampbell/
| sylens wrote:
| You haven't seen LinkedIn cringe until you've worked in sales
| or sales adjacent positions. The amount of of hubris some of
| these people have is incredible
| LAC-Tech wrote:
| I actually get a fair amount of sales content on my feed, and
| I have to say - tech is catching up fast in the cringe
| department.
| mccorrinall wrote:
| > So it seems to be a phishing opportunity is to create a profile
| on LinkedIn or angel.co with a company name that matches your
| target company. Write some job postings with descriptions that
| look like a job posting that the company would actually hire. And
| now those job postings will be reposted onto the official
| LinkedIn pages of the company, and applicants will be redirected
| to your phished webpage.
|
| Ehh, not sure how I'm targeting the company by doing that? If I
| understand correctly, you're actually targeting an applicant
| here.
| IsopropylMalbec wrote:
| I think that it would make an illegitimate job posting for
| example.com look legitimate as LinkedIn scraped it and posted
| it in LinkedIn's example.com profile page.
| gurchik wrote:
| You're targeting the applicants but you're accomplishing the
| scam by using the official LinkedIn profile of the company
| which can hurt credibility.
| ajb wrote:
| Not the op, but the major group tempted to do this would be
| recruiters, who get paid by companies, not candidates
| faddypaddy34 wrote:
| Or people looking to lure job applicants into a scam. The job
| being on the companies actual LinkedIn page adds all the
| credibility they need to lure people in.
| MonkeyMalarky wrote:
| Especially when many companies run their job application
| pages through 3rd parties. The phishing page having a
| different domain isn't suspicious at all. Most of the time
| when I check the career's page on a company's website, it
| links to something like "corpname.randomhrsolutions.com".
| shmde wrote:
| If the job ad on linkedin says "Easy Apply" it means the job was
| posted on Linkedin. If it just says "Apply" with an arrow that
| means it scraped it off another job posting site. Linkedin even
| scrapes the "number of people applied" from the 3rd party site.
| Taurenking wrote:
| danbmil99 wrote:
| This is the company that crushed startup hiQ labs for scraping
| public profiles
| zh3 wrote:
| How does this play with copyright infringement? If I advertise a
| job on my own website, and someone copies that verbatim and
| reposts it, isn't it a clear case of copyright infringement? (or
| am I missing something....)
| lupire wrote:
| tedmiston wrote:
| Web scraping is legal, US appeals court reaffirms (April 2022)
| [1]:
|
| > Using a "gate-up, gate-down" analogy, the Supreme Court said
| that when a computer or website's gates are up -- and therefore
| information is publicly accessible -- no authorization is
| required.
|
| > The Ninth Circuit, in referencing the Supreme Court's "gate-
| up, gate-down" analogy, ruled that "the concept of 'without
| authorization' does not apply to public websites."
|
| [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/18/web-scraping-legal-
| court/
| sneak wrote:
| Scraping is one thing; reproduction is another. I can scrape
| the Times but I don't get to mirror their site on my own
| domain.
| tedmiston wrote:
| I've always wondered how this isn't more of an issue for
| the common archivers and news sites...
| jrockway wrote:
| Most people having their copyright infringed probably don't
| care to sue Linkedin over it because their postings are getting
| additional exposure which is usually costly. The problem the OP
| complains of is that some other company's job postings are
| appearing on their company's Linkedin page, which isn't their
| copyright infringement lawsuit to fight (it's someone else's
| copyrighted work).
|
| I'm not a lawyer so I don't really know what this is. Maybe
| trademark infringement? But you probably "signed" something
| giving them a perpetual irrevocable license to do stuff like
| that. "Tech companies being irritating in the third degree" is
| the best I have here. Not illegal yet, sadly.
| jollybean wrote:
| It feels 'off' but I'm not sure this is bad.
|
| Your recruiter probably doesn't mind and of course, people legit
| looking for jobs don't.
|
| It's literally free advertising.
|
| It's also just another form of 'specific journalism' - bloggers
| and journalists report on everything that is public.
|
| I suggest what they might want to do is make it clear in the
| header that 'these are jobs posted on that site' or something
| like that, and maybe make a bit more clear that if you create
| company profile that it does this by default and it can be turned
| off.
|
| Given that it's mostly helping all around, I wouldn't suggest
| this as a 'dark pattern' so much as 'awkward pattern'.
| arwhatever wrote:
| On a positive note, I always visit LinkedIn whenever I suspect
| internet connectivity issues, because it is (or at least feels
| like) one of the more cumbersome sites to load, from the top of
| my mind.
| Animats wrote:
| Just redirect people out of LinkedIn. My LinkedIn page says only
| "My real profile is on Github: URL".
| freitasm wrote:
| I've seen the same with Glassdoor, years ago while on my previous
| employer. The company's name is also used by an American company
| in a completely unrelated business and vertical. Many times I saw
| job listings that were not for our company at all.
| kakariko wrote:
| bArray wrote:
| > It appears that LinkedIn is automatically importing job
| postings from other places on LinkedIn and other sites such as
| angel.co if the company name of the job posting matches your
| company name on LinkedIn.
|
| The irony when LinkedIn get so upset about people scraping their
| website.
| ununoctium87 wrote:
| Hipocrisy*
| dan000892 wrote:
| Not only is there phishing opportunity, it's being actively
| exploited to much greater financial effect (check fraud and
| identity theft), and you don't even need to go to the lengths of
| creating a company profile or a website as anyone can create a
| job posting for any company (with rare exception) [1].
|
| Here's a very real series of events I'm privy to:
|
| - Bad guy gets a domain name confusingly similar to the target
| company (maybe tack on "inc" or "llc").
|
| - Bad guy gets access to a LinkedIn account (doesn't matter who
| or if they're connected to the company; stands to reason that a
| hacked account with existing connections adds credibility) and
| updates the title to CEO of target company.
|
| - Bad guy posts an "Easy Apply" ad for a remote job with target
| company.
|
| - That job listing automatically appears on target company's
| LinkedIn page.
|
| - Bad guy begins receiving contact info for the job and gets to
| work.
|
| - Following a weak interview process conducted entirely over IM
| or email, the candidate is hired.
|
| - New hire provides identity documentation at bad actor's
| request.
|
| - Bad actor sends new hire a check with instructions to buy
| equipment for their home work area from a specific vendor who is
| also the bad actor.
|
| - New hire deposits check and bank makes funds available before
| the check clearance process actually completes.
|
| - New hire buys a few thousand dollars' of equipment from a
| vendor that doesn't exist with money they don't actually have.
|
| - Check bounces and the jig is up.
|
| By the time target company found out, LinkedIn has removed both
| the job ad and the profile that created it, but did not and would
| not reach out to the applicants to warn them of the scam nor
| provide those applicants to the target company (y'know, the
| company the applicants thought they were applying to; citing
| "privacy reasons").
|
| While [1] says LinkedIn can do something to restrict who can post
| jobs on behalf of your company, it's wholly undocumented (and I
| suspect may not work well for companies relying on both internal
| and external sourcing). The only defensive measure I've
| identified is setting up a job alert for your company,
| specifically for Easy Apply and/or Remote positions as that seems
| to track with the scam.
|
| [1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/you-can-
| post-...
| hackernewds wrote:
| The more nefarious ploy is how Axie infinity got shut down for
| millions of dollars in fraud because the targets opened a PDF
| that was actually sent by NK bad actors posting a fake high
| paying job and interview process
| jsemrau wrote:
| I was hiring on LinkedIn and what really annoyed me the most are
| two UI dark patterns.
|
| 1. If there is someone that LinkedIn doesn't seem fit, there are
| three clicks necessary to make this person fit compared to one
| click for accepting the rejection. And it is visually made very
| clear that this person is not fit.
|
| 2. The fitness as calculated by LinkedIn it not working correctly
| by flagging too many people as being unfit.
|
| As a result, inexperienced recruiters or HR staff would blanket
| disregard these applicants even though a lot of them are much
| more qualified than non-flagged applicants.
|
| [edit] Here is the overview I created at the time. One might
| argue that the sample is small. But I think it should be possible
| to speak to applicants in this case.
| https://i.imgur.com/n7i5VtP.jpg
| dr_kiszonka wrote:
| What do the grades mean?
| jsemrau wrote:
| This is a grading where 1-worst and 5-best. Fit/Not Fit is
| the grading from LinkedIn
| alliao wrote:
| LinkedIn's motto should be "Making Derivatives out of Career
| aspirations" seriously, everything you do on it are fired off in
| ALL the tangents like a jelly fish and just desperately tries to
| tangle onto something. Could be poisonous I don't know, does feel
| like it when it's done indiscriminately like that
| Raed667 wrote:
| A few years ago, I worked at a tech company that shared a name
| with a restaurant a few towns over.
|
| The company's LinkedIn (with our logo, connections, etc...) would
| show job openings for cooks and waiters.
|
| I found it funny, at the time, and even went to the restaurant to
| try it out.
| altdataseller wrote:
| Everyone needs to put the following in their robots.txt to give
| Linkedin a taste of their own medicine.
|
| User-agent: LinkedinBot
|
| Disallow: /
|
| # Notice: If you would like to crawl us, # please email
| whitelist-crawl@domain.com to apply # for white listing.
|
| *taken from linkedin.com/robots.txt
| eyegor wrote:
| Ah yes, surely they will always respect the holy robots.txt
| smt88 wrote:
| HN messes up whitespace, so you'll have to indent this to make
| if preserve the newlines.
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