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       A Master Perfumer's Reflections on Patchouli and Vetiver
        
       Author : axiomdata316
       Score  : 69 points
       Date   : 2022-07-30 15:51 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
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       | vivegi wrote:
       | Vetiver is a Tamil word. Ver literally means root.
       | 
       | https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=ta&text=vetiver&op=...
       | (You can listen to the pronunciation of the English version and
       | the Tamil version in the Google Translate link above).
       | 
       | I remember my childhood days when the vetiver roots were used to
       | add fragrance to bath water and fragrance & taste to summer
       | drinks.
        
       | mrspuratic wrote:
       | I (re)discovered an interest in natural scents earlier this year
       | when I tried eliminating petrochemical skin products. Coconut oil
       | and aloe vera (about 80:20), olive oil liquid soap, and essential
       | oils - including patchouli, cedar, oak moss, lavender, vetiver,
       | (European) bay, tea tree, melissa. My best effort so far is a
       | rosemary/eucalyptus/bay aftershave balm.
        
         | zasdffaa wrote:
         | I guess a word to the wise, or others who may not have your
         | experience, be careful about assuming natural stuff is safe.
         | Some essential oils are irritating, and some can be bad for you
         | unless carefully handled (eg jasmine oil should be well diluted
         | into a carrier oil before it touches your skin).
        
       | spapas82 wrote:
       | The author, JC Ellena is now retired and was the house perfurmer
       | of Hermes for many years. He is definitely one of the most
       | important perfurmers of all time having created many many
       | problems including two of the most iconic perfumes of all time:
       | Cartier Declaration and Terre d'Hermes.
       | 
       | I recommend everybody not familiar with perfumery to go to a
       | Sephora or similar store and try these two masterpieces. They are
       | so iconic (and popular) that you ll get memories of people
       | wearing them in your past; the memory of smell is really strong.
       | 
       | This was a revelation to me when I did that before some years and
       | made me really love perfumes after that!
        
       | serf wrote:
       | writing so interesting that it makes me wish I was into perfume.
       | 
       | I knew that historically perfumers took their job very seriously,
       | but I was unaware that kind of artisanal appreciation was still
       | around; I thought it was mostly a corporate laboratory kind of
       | thing now.
        
         | ovao wrote:
         | There are both aspects in commercial perfumery, which makes it
         | a pretty interesting industry. It's true that there's a
         | definite laboratory slant when a fragrance needs to be
         | validated and modified to meet regulatory standards for sale
         | (which vary widely by region), and of course during mass
         | production, but many big labels still tap independent perfumers
         | who often work in pretty simple, bohemian digs, where a digital
         | scale is about the most advanced gear in use. And there are
         | legitimately thousands of independent perfumeries producing
         | commercial fragrances at relatively small scale.
         | 
         | Many perfumers are trained chemists, but it's definitely not a
         | prerequisite.
        
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         | Wistar wrote:
         | You may enjoy the 2003 book, "The Emperor of Scent." The
         | primary subject of the book, research scientist Luca Turin,
         | theorizes that the human identification of scent is done
         | through receptors that instantly identify the bonds -- quantum
         | vibrations -- of a given molecule. Turin himself is an
         | interesting character, and I thought the book a great read (at
         | the time, anyway).
        
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