[HN Gopher] Google's Switch to Android Is on the App Store
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       Google's Switch to Android Is on the App Store
        
       Author : nateb2022
       Score  : 27 points
       Date   : 2022-07-26 19:35 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | patmcc wrote:
       | Apple has the same thing on the Play Store -
       | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.move... -
       | so really seems only fair.
        
         | adamrezich wrote:
         | now each walled garden has an escape hatch into each other
        
           | cowtools wrote:
           | Is android a walled garden? There are open-source
           | distributions of Android like CalyxOS (https://calyxos.org/),
           | LineageOS (https://lineageos.org/), GrapheneOS
           | (https://grapheneos.org/)
        
             | jsight wrote:
             | Its a walled garden with a relatively accessible door. And
             | the garden's pretty nice too, nice enough that most don't
             | leave for the perilous world outside of it.
             | 
             | Unfortunately, some of the security related moves lately
             | have also made living outside of it a little more
             | difficult.
        
               | highwaylights wrote:
               | Android isn't the walled garden. The Play Store is.
        
             | kevin_thibedeau wrote:
             | They are neutered by threats from Google. Lineage had to
             | remove the ability to spoof permissions to appease their
             | overlord.
        
               | Dig1t wrote:
               | Wow I didn't know that, do you have a link?
        
       | 63 wrote:
       | I still recall the outrage when Apple published their first app
       | on Android and it turned out to be Move to IOS. It seems strange
       | that it took so long for the opposite service to appear.
        
         | cowtools wrote:
         | It's not strange to me. iOS is far more restrictive in the type
         | of programs it allows you to run and distribute, whereas
         | Android allows sideloading and rooting.
         | 
         | It's a variant of popper's paradox I suppose.
        
           | JacobThreeThree wrote:
           | >iOS is far more restrictive in the type of programs it
           | allows you to run and distribute, whereas Android allows
           | sideloading and rooting.
           | 
           | True, although lately they've been under more regulatory
           | scrutiny so I highly doubt something like this would get
           | disallowed, especially if the equivalent app is allowed on
           | Android.
        
             | cowtools wrote:
             | Depending on the government to step in and regulate
             | corporate control is a fail-deadly system for freedom and
             | should be avoided.
             | 
             | The likelihood of the ruling government to support the
             | interests of its citizens is dependent on the power
             | (negotiating leverage) that the individual citizens have
             | over large government-controlled institutions (inc.
             | coporations). Authoritarian systems produce generally
             | compounding effects, so the idea that we should just sit
             | around and do nothing while they compound is dangerous.
             | When the time comes that protesting surveilance,
             | censorship, etc. is dire then it already be too late
             | because government will have the powers of surveilance,
             | censorship, etc. on its side to squash dissent.
             | 
             | It is better to depend on systems (like FOSS) that are
             | fail-safe for freedom. That is- they naturally err on the
             | side of individual liberty. This is because authoritarian
             | societies are non-recoverable and have to be rebooted by
             | adjacent (free) societies.
        
           | mtgx wrote:
        
           | citizenkeen wrote:
           | pauper
        
             | cowtools wrote:
             | the meek shall inherit the earth!
        
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