[HN Gopher] The Pop-11 Programming Language
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       The Pop-11 Programming Language
        
       Author : url
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2022-07-26 01:29 UTC (21 hours ago)
        
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       | YeGoblynQueenne wrote:
       | I did my Master's at the University of Sussex, where Poplog
       | (including Pop-11) was created. I was there in 2014. I asked one
       | of our tutors how come the university did not teach any of that
       | family of languages (Prolog and LISP variants) to its computer
       | science students anymore. He said that in the '90s, the
       | University had pushed Poplog so hard on students to the exclusion
       | of other languages that were more popular in the industry, and
       | hence more in demand by students, that there had been a backlash
       | against Poplog, and the University had stopped teaching it
       | completely.
       | 
       | This from memory and after questioning on my part that was mainly
       | about teaching logic programming which I was primarily interested
       | in (rather than functional programming).
        
       | mncharity wrote:
       | I found it very sad, in the late 80's and early 90's, that POPLOG
       | chose to chase unicorn dreams, instead of broader availability
       | and impact. It seemed a chance to change the world was traded for
       | dreams of fortune, which failing, left only ashes. And the last
       | three decades of programming language dystopia.
        
       | Ghouse4u wrote:
        
       | register wrote:
       | I tinkered with it a little bit. It is surprisingly modern for a
       | language built in the 80s. Unfortunately the development stalled.
       | Would be worth of a new modern implementation.
        
       | olliej wrote:
       | The links on the page seem broken, I did quick hunt around to get
       | this better central link:
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       | https://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/poplog/freepoplo...
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       | Or direct to the primer:
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       | https://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/research/projects/poplog/primer/
       | 
       | Both of which seem like they are more reliable
        
         | jimbob45 wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POP-11
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         | was helpful for me as well
        
       | DonaldFisk wrote:
       | I used this in the early 1980s, on a VAX 11/780. It was one of
       | the three languages of Poplog. The other two were Prolog and
       | Lisp. Lisp would have been my preference, but at the time it
       | lacked some important features. I notice Poplog now has Common
       | Lisp, which wasn't available until later.
        
         | gnufx wrote:
         | It also has Standard(?) ML, doesn't it?
        
       | unfunco wrote:
       | I studied AI at Birmingham in the 00s and remember having to
       | visit Prof. Aaron Sloman's office with PS5 to purchase a hardcopy
       | of the POP-11 primer.
        
       | captaincaveman wrote:
       | Used this at Uni, on Sparc machines, cool you can get it on x86
       | now, shame I just got an m1.
        
         | nacnud wrote:
         | Sussex? We used it in COGS and I think it was one of very few
         | places teaching with it at the time.
        
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