[HN Gopher] Emirates statement on operations at London Heathrow
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Emirates statement on operations at London Heathrow
Author : khet
Score : 94 points
Date : 2022-07-21 20:15 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.emirates.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.emirates.com)
| [deleted]
| whoisburbansky wrote:
| " Until further notice, Emirates plans to operate as scheduled to
| and from LHR." Anyone more familiar with airport operations care
| to explain how this is feasible, if LHR doesn't think they have
| what it takes to handle the load?
| conductr wrote:
| I think it just means they'll suffer the consequences and have
| pointed their finger at who's to blame if it goes wrong
|
| Probably meant to force some reconsideration
| viraptor wrote:
| Paraphrasing the saying about debt: If 10 people can't get on
| the flight it's the airlines problem. If 10000+ people a day
| arrive at the airport and can't get on the flight, that's
| airport's problem.
| et2o wrote:
| This is a week old. Emirates did agree to cap passengers:
| https://liveandletsfly.com/emirates-heathrow-compromise/
| Etheryte wrote:
| Saying Emirates agreed to cap passengers is highly misleading.
| They agreed to cap further sales, with no comment by how much,
| and refused to do anything about already sold tickets.
| walterbell wrote:
| _> After extensive meetings involving Sir Tim Clark, Emirates'
| President, and John Holland-Kaye, CEO of Heathrow Airport, the
| two have kissed and made up, with Emirates agreeing to "cap"
| selling more tickets but insisting upon not cancelling any
| flights ... The beauty of this statement is that both sides
| save face and Emirates actually agrees to nothing, since it
| might well "cap" sales at 100%...there is no explanation of
| what capacity further sales will be capped._
| hackernewds wrote:
| some added nuance
|
| > "Emirates has capped further sales on its flights out of
| Heathrow until mid-August to assist Heathrow in its resource
| ramp up, and is working to adjust capacity. In the meantime,
| Emirates flights from Heathrow operate as scheduled and
| ticketed passengers may travel as booked."
| [deleted]
| openplatypus wrote:
| This some breakthrough in corporate communication. It feels real.
| It feels human.
|
| No wishy washy BS.
|
| Emirates is pissed at LHR and they are open about it.
| antisthenes wrote:
| It's a little verbose and there's at least 1 typo, but I
| generally agree.
|
| It feels nice when a corporate statement isn't sugar-coated to
| the point of being meaningless.
| zenlot wrote:
| It's normal to have typos. Not everyone's first language is
| English. I'd rather read a statement like this with typos
| than a typical BS.
| viraptor wrote:
| This doesn't even have anything to do with the first
| language. Everyone makes typos.
| epolanski wrote:
| That's because the statement target isn't LHR sharehokders
| but the public.
|
| If the target were shareholders and management they would've
| wrote privately.
|
| With this move they are aiming for public pressure on LHR
| management and other stakeholders.
| m348e912 wrote:
| I appreciate the messaging too. It definitely feels as a
| person wrote it and not a faceless corporate entity. However,
| as the self-proclaimed reigning typo champion several years
| running I will say you'd think a PR person would do a once-
| over on the text for mistakes before publishing.
| ISL wrote:
| You can only do this when you're _really_ pissed and you no
| longer care about working cooperatively with your
| counterparties, particularly LHR 's management team.
| conductr wrote:
| Yeah, they specifically imply shareholders should be firing
| the management
| [deleted]
| zarzavat wrote:
| Emirates is less of a corporation and more an organ of the
| Emirate of Dubai. As such this conflict almost escalated into a
| diplomatic incident and the UK government hastily made an
| announcement soon after that they were investigating WTF is
| going on at Heathrow.
| devnonymous wrote:
| It boils down to who they are trying to appease. With the
| potential backlash they would have got from customers and
| damage to their brand it makes sense to position themselves as
| 'taking a stand on behalf of the customer'. If there was more
| to lose in regards to their relationship with LHR, we'd have
| seen a wishy washy 'we are sorry, here are some refunds'.
|
| Furthermore, now they are in the position to put in another
| notice to the effect claiming - Look we tried, we are sorry it
| didn't work out, here are some refunds
| zenlot wrote:
| Just came to say the same. It's absolutely refreshing.
| Daishiman wrote:
| It's pretty clear; their partners screwed them and they suffer
| even when having plenty of advance knowledge of the passenger
| surge.
| londons_explore wrote:
| It's worth noting that every other UK airport seems to be running
| smoothly.
|
| There's just something wrong with the operational capabilities at
| Heathrow. I have a feeling they might be deliberately operating
| badly to try to get permission for an extra runway...
| netsharc wrote:
| The runway is the least of the problems, it's the last/first
| leg of the whole airport pipeline, it's the whole check-in and
| luggage handling that's a clusterfuck. An extra runway for
| planes to land and bring more people and luggage when the staff
| is already overwhelmed? An extra runway so more planes can take
| off, i.e. more passengers and luggage that need to be placed
| onto those planes before the pilot can take off?
| makomk wrote:
| Heathrow is the largest British airport by far. The second-
| largest, Gatwick, pre-emptively cut a whole bunch of flights in
| July and August about a month before Heathrow decided to do the
| same, the third largest is apparently Manchester which I think
| has been having problems for months (so much so that they no
| longer even make the news anymore), and so on. Iut doesn't seem
| to be isolated to the UK either, I've been hearing about very
| similar problems elsewhere in Eruope from people travelling
| there.
| splonk wrote:
| Yeah, the entire travel story of the summer is that every
| airport is kind of screwed, it's not remotely limited to
| Heathrow. According to this source, Heathrow actually
| outperformed every other London airport except Stansted in
| terms of percentage of flights successfully departing in
| June.
|
| https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/worse-uk-airports-
| cancellati...
|
| And of course Manchester had some well publicized issues, and
| outside of the UK AMS and CDG had massive problems as well. I
| mean, KLM flat out stopped flying ticketed passengers into
| AMS for a day to try to recover.
|
| "At the end of Saturday afternoon, 4 June, KLM was
| regrettably compelled to decide that passengers at European
| destinations would no longer be allowed to board flights to
| Amsterdam."
|
| https://simpleflying.com/klm-suspends-all-flights-from-
| europ...
| Reason077 wrote:
| I don't think that logic holds up. Why give Heathrow another
| runway when they can't even effectively operate the ones
| they've got?
| neonate wrote:
| https://archive.ph/iJWL2
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