[HN Gopher] The FBI Forced a Suspect to Unlock Amazon's Encrypte...
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       The FBI Forced a Suspect to Unlock Amazon's Encrypted App Wickr
       with Their Face
        
       Author : cmg
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2022-07-20 21:46 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | mikece wrote:
       | Is this a stealth add for Amazon that not even they, when handed
       | a warrant, can decrypt your Wickr data without Big Brother
       | forcing a biometric unlock on you (or cutting you a plea deal to
       | unlock the app so you can rat out the rest of your
       | militia/gang/activists)?
        
         | Forge36 wrote:
         | It's a reminder to not use face verification and that proper
         | password locking should occur after a period of time.
        
       | dane-pgp wrote:
       | I wonder if there are copyright implications here. Do you own the
       | copyright to the image that your phone takes of your face? What
       | about the data that is created when you initially register your
       | biometric?
       | 
       | Also, when the unlock process is checking for a match, is it
       | creating a derivative work? Would this legal argument hold any
       | more weight if you formally registered the copyright? (You'd
       | think that two people taking two pictures of a vaguely similar
       | public subject on different days could not amount to a copyright
       | violation, but a court might disagree[0]).
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       | Finally, does someone registering (or unlocking a device with)
       | their biometrics grant a licence to or even ownership of that
       | data to the company who manufactured the device? It would be
       | interesting if the FBI had to request permission from Apple to
       | create a derivative work of "their" copy of your face stored in
       | their/your device.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.wpt.co.uk/resources/news/copyright-in-
       | photograph...
        
       | jmprspret wrote:
       | Since when does Wickr allow biomentrics for login? Last time I
       | used it, it was username+password.
        
       | danhab99 wrote:
       | Is the horror of this situation the fact that biometric security
       | is less secure than a memorized password, or the big-brother-esq
       | coercion tactic they used?
        
         | arthurcolle wrote:
         | Yes
        
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       | dengxiaopeng wrote:
       | This is quite similar to circumstances that happened in Columbus,
       | OH a few years ago. Same app, same law enforcement tactic:
       | 
       | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/doj-claims-its-w...
        
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