[HN Gopher] Just got this notice from my bank: No more Firefox
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       Just got this notice from my bank: No more Firefox
        
       Author : vord1080
       Score  : 28 points
       Date   : 2022-07-19 21:11 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | dmart wrote:
       | I wonder if people realize how low Firefox marketshare has
       | fallen, or if people are stuck in a 2010s-era idea of what the
       | web browser landscape is like. I also think the prevalence of
       | Firefox among the (overall tiny) desktop Linux demographic tends
       | to warp developer perspectives.
       | 
       | It's under 4% - for all intents and purposes a dead browser. I
       | certainly wouldn't devote any engineering hours towards
       | supporting it.
        
         | pipeline_peak wrote:
         | Not to mention, the core development team has been cut.
         | 
         | Mozilla is rebranding itself into a "Social Justice For Tech"
         | marketing firm.
         | 
         | There are two significant platforms left Chromium and WebKit. I
         | hope that isn't the future, but browser dominance is such an
         | obscure, indirect problem to the industry that no company would
         | bother touching it.
        
           | vord1080 wrote:
           | Not sure where you got the idea that the core development
           | team has been cut, Firefox development remains strong. For
           | example, here's a 1,000+ line patch that just landed two days
           | ago. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1779952
        
             | pipeline_peak wrote:
             | I shouldn't of said cut, but they did layoff 250 members 2
             | years ago and among those were the Servo team.
             | 
             | https://www.protocol.com/amp/mozilla-layoffs-2646950077
        
         | rlpb wrote:
         | In most industries increasing your reach by 3% is worth doing.
        
         | the_biot wrote:
         | Firefox's marketshare is hardly the point here. As bob1029
         | said, there's no earthly reason why you wouldn't just build a
         | standards-based site and have it work on any modern browser.
        
       | bob1029 wrote:
       | This is pretty lame BS. I am literally right in the middle of
       | building a public web app ( _also_ for a bank) that does not have
       | any sort of arbitrary user agent constraints.
       | 
       | As long as your browser supports reasonably-modern things like
       | flexbox and media queries, my app is just going to work on your
       | machine. Even if it doesn't support these things, I don't see any
       | reason to artificially get in the way of something you might
       | otherwise be able to string along regardless.
       | 
       | I roll 100% vanilla JS/CSS these days so that I can avoid getting
       | entrapped in the kinds of hells that likely entrapped these mbna
       | web developers. It is quite possible they use some JS framework
       | that has a tight dependency on a certain cohort of browser
       | vendors & versions.
        
       | guilherme-puida wrote:
       | It's Internet Explorer all over again.
        
         | whoibrar wrote:
         | Wonder what will be the next javascript of today ?
        
           | kalupa wrote:
           | javascript, just like it was before today.
        
           | pipeline_peak wrote:
           | wasm
        
       | ratsmack wrote:
       | My bank (B of A) started complaining about Debian's firefox-esr
       | being too old and out of date, so I loaded the bleeding edge
       | version just to access my bank account, but use the esr version
       | for general browsing.
        
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