[HN Gopher] Why does ancient Egypt's distinctive art style make ...
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       Why does ancient Egypt's distinctive art style make everything look
       flat?
        
       Author : prismatic
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2022-07-15 21:17 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | spockz wrote:
       | The "Egyptian history" book I'm reading with my kid states that
       | the "Egyptians couldn't draw perspective and therefore flattened
       | everything" and continues with that this is the reason we see
       | multi storied houses in drawing but not in archeological finds.
       | 
       | Does this ring a bell or is it just elementary school
       | oversimplification again?
        
         | slavik81 wrote:
         | That sounds reasonable. Until the rules of perspective were
         | understood, artists were mostly quite poor at drawing realistic
         | scenes. It wasn't until 1415 that the rules of perspective were
         | thoroughly described, and the discovery dramatically improved
         | the quality of art that was created after.
         | 
         | http://www.essentialvermeer.com/technique/perspective/histor...
        
         | technothrasher wrote:
         | Well, the article linked to implies that the reason for the
         | flat aspect of the artwork was that they were more interested
         | in strongly conveying themes and concepts than they were
         | reproducing what the eye sees. The article compares it to a
         | modern comic strip. Whether they "couldn't" draw perspective,
         | or were just uninterested, I don't know. I believe it was the
         | Greeks in the 6th(?) century BC who were the first to use
         | linear perspective in their art.
        
         | alehlopeh wrote:
         | Do elementary school kids even understand what perspective is?
        
           | bcrosby95 wrote:
           | I don't know if you're punning or serious here.
           | 
           | If you're serious, you can teach elementary school kids to
           | draw with perspective.
        
           | micromacrofoot wrote:
           | Yes. Not unusual for a first grader to have a basic
           | understanding of it. Naming 3d shapes (pyramids, cylinders,
           | cubes) is kindergarten level stuff.
        
           | bigbillheck wrote:
           | Some of them do, some of them don't. I think I first learned
           | about it in 3rd grade or so.
        
           | ajuc wrote:
           | Kids aren't idiots, they just had too little time to learn
           | everything. I've had perspective drawing in art classes in
           | elementary school and nobody had problems understanding it
           | after 10 minute introduction.
           | 
           | Have you seen the willy coyote cartoon with a road painted on
           | a rock? It uses perspective, and kids aged 7 understand what
           | happens.
        
             | Cockbrand wrote:
             | > Kids aren't idiots, they just had too little time to
             | learn everything.
             | 
             | These are wise words right there.
        
           | egypturnash wrote:
           | If my memory of carrying around a book on the subject during
           | my family's visit to Washington, DC during the Bicentennial
           | is accurate, I had learnt some basics of perspective drawing
           | at the age of five.
        
         | pyinstallwoes wrote:
         | Reeks of oversimplification and hand-waving explanations. The
         | Egyptians clearly understood very advanced geometry and methods
         | to measure the world.
         | 
         | Everything the Egyptians did was intentional.
         | 
         | How could they build statues if they could only reason in 2d
         | space? That makes no sense.
         | 
         | In a way many of their creations are a combination of
         | spacetime(3d and time) accompanied by 2d storytelling as a form
         | of narrative much like we write on the internet except maybe
         | more comic book like.
        
       | cc101 wrote:
       | They used an art technique called fullest aspect (I think). Many
       | of ancient Egypt's figures flatten both the front and the side
       | views into the same figure. I think that is what you are
       | referring to.
        
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