[HN Gopher] Part of India Is on the Verge of Becoming a Complete...
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Part of India Is on the Verge of Becoming a Complete Surveillance
State
Author : computator
Score : 10 points
Date : 2022-07-16 21:17 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (slate.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (slate.com)
| reactspa wrote:
| This article is a good example of how to take innuendo and
| declare it as fact to bolster a narrative. It's a journalistic
| strategy, and it's taught in journalism school.
|
| E.g.:
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| > In 2021, the Pegasus Project, an investigation by a consortium
| of international journalists, revealed that the Indian government
| had been spying on more than 300 people, including journalists,
| activists, and politicians.
|
| The word: "revealed". It's all innuendo. Nothing was indisputably
| "revealed". A true example of "revealed" would be the video
| Hunter Biden filmed, of himself taking a shower with multiple
| prostitutes while smoking crack. But don't expect to hear about
| it because it doesn't suit the narrative. This, on the other
| hand, is innuendo being trotted out as fact.
|
| Last word on this topic: the narrative sketched in this article
| is "Modi bad." But the evidence is from a state run by a staunch
| Modi opponent, belonging to a party that is in opposition to
| Modi's party.
|
| (I think we're allowed to mock super-privileged people of the
| Left on HN. PG seems pretty libertarian to me. But if my comment
| crossed a line, I apologize in advance and will remove the
| offensive portions.)
| pkd wrote:
| Why is the Pegasus reveal an innuendo? The reporting on Pegasus
| clearly listed the names of hundreds of Indian citizens -
| mostly investigative journalists and opposition leaders. Since
| Pegasus could only be sold to national governments, it's a
| logical conclusion that the Indian state was at the very least
| intending to spy on those individuals. [1]
|
| The article also never even mentions Modi, and like you said,
| mostly talks about Telangana. I read through it and got no
| sense of it implying anything about him individually.
|
| It seems you are inferring things that simply aren't there.
|
| [1]
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_Project_revelations_...
| dane-pgp wrote:
| > It's all innuendo. Nothing was indisputably "revealed".
|
| I don't know what sort of evidence it would take to convince
| you that Modi's team was illegally spying on his political
| opponents, but I think I'll trust the journalists on this
| one.[0]
|
| > Last word on this topic: the narrative sketched in this
| article is "Modi bad." But the evidence is from a state run by
| a staunch Modi opponent
|
| The article doesn't even mention Modi by name, so I think
| you're being over-protective of him. It does say:
|
| "The Indian government plans to implement an Automated Facial
| Recognition System across the country"
|
| although it doesn't provide a source for that claim. Then
| there's this claim:
|
| "The police in New Delhi used facial recognition technology to
| identify farmer protesters who held demonstrations against the
| government's contentious agricultural laws."
|
| which suggests that these practices are already in use
| elsewhere (with the current Police Commissioner of Delhi being
| appointed by the Modi government, if I'm not mistaken).
|
| [0] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/dec/17/pegasus-
| spyware...
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