[HN Gopher] U.S. Inflation Hits New Four-Decade High of 9.1%
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       U.S. Inflation Hits New Four-Decade High of 9.1%
        
       Author : fortran77
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2022-07-13 17:42 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | acd wrote:
       | Here is a 2020 history blog post about QE quantative easing:
       | 
       | https://www.brookings.edu/blog/ben-bernanke/2020/01/04/the-n...
        
       | planarhobbit wrote:
       | Realistically, what are the viable directions from here, and what
       | are their outcomes?
        
         | mercy_dude wrote:
         | Fed can't hike rates as fast as they need to bring down the
         | inflation so it's going to last till 2023 or beyond. If economy
         | enters into recession, which there is a solid chance of, Fed
         | will have to stop rate hikes and start back QE (like ECB) and
         | that means inflation is here to stay. The only good thing is it
         | will also inflate away the 33 trillion debt we have.
        
           | ab_testing wrote:
           | I agree with you and don't understand why you are being
           | downvoted. If the second quater GDP growth comes back
           | negative and it proves that we are in a recession, then the
           | fed will have to halt the interest rate hikes. That will
           | prolong the high inflationary period.
        
           | rendang wrote:
           | Why would you expect inflation in a recession especially when
           | fuel is driving a lot of the inflation and fuel demand goes
           | down in recessions?
        
             | mercy_dude wrote:
             | Because the factors driving the inflation are from supply
             | side such as energy or supply chain mess. Recessions won't
             | kill demands as fast - people are still going to need gas
             | and presumably food.
        
           | toomuchtodo wrote:
           | Benchmark rate is a blunt tool. It won't print more oil and
           | food supply, nor can it print more housing stock (sectors
           | where inflation is currently focused). This is where targeted
           | fiscal policy would be most beneficial (mandating remote work
           | where able, encouraging more rapid uptake of EVs to not be
           | beholden to a global oil market while one of the largest
           | suppliers is engaged in a land war and has sanctions applied
           | to it), but that is unlikely to arrive with the current
           | authorities of fiscal policy.
           | 
           | Asset price destruction is also a likely outcome, and will
           | bring down home and equities prices, allowing for those on
           | the margins to get into homes where prices were too high
           | before, as well as get exposure to the stock market for
           | wealth accumulation. This, in my humble opinion, is a desired
           | outcome. TLDR Deflate the asset bubbles.
           | 
           | A light recession would be welcome for price stability, and
           | with labor participation rate where it is at, I think the
           | data shows some reliable indicators that unemployment won't
           | spike when the Fed starts banging away with their rate hammer
           | on the broader economic system. A million people, for a
           | variety of reasons, left the labor force during the pandemic,
           | while 10k Boomers retire per day. The US economy faces an
           | ongoing labor shortage well into the next decade [1].
           | 
           | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI4mDQeo9eE
        
             | smileysteve wrote:
             | To agree; the fed got caught with its pants down; QE was
             | extreme in 2020 and should have begun the wind down process
             | 
             | (It's also hard to define worse timing/actions by Powell if
             | he were a malignant actor)
             | 
             | 1. After states started reopening
             | 
             | 2. On Federal Stimulus (PPP, unemployment, or 2nd/3rd
             | stimulus checks)
             | 
             | 3. Staged on percentage of population vaccinated and covid
             | positivity rates / propensity to travel (ie spun down by
             | June)
        
             | smileysteve wrote:
             | > This is where targeted fiscal policy would be most
             | beneficial
             | 
             | Something Congress should consider instead of tariffs on
             | imported goods (steal, aluminum, wood) that have failed
             | miserably (actually increased trade deficit) is applying
             | these taxes on virgin material. Promoting recycling rusting
             | steel, scrap aluminum, plastic and fiberglass composite
             | wood and concrete could bring back domestic production and
             | clear our backyards, while being greener than China making
             | raw material and shipping it.
        
             | agentofoblivion wrote:
             | Mandating remote work? You have terrible ideas.
        
               | toomuchtodo wrote:
               | If you can't supply more oil, you must destroy demand or
               | avoid the demand in the first place.
               | 
               | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32069033
               | (Netherlands poised to make work-from-home a legal right,
               | says report)
               | 
               | https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/11/11/which-countries-
               | pla... (After Portugal, which countries in Europe are
               | improving post-COVID remote working laws?)
               | 
               | Progress takes time, and requiring people burn
               | (currently, very expensive and in short supply) fossil
               | fuels to move their bodies to an office to do knowledge
               | work is silly. Perhaps this will be more clear as the
               | global oil market situation deteriorates further. More
               | economic pain may need to occur before such policy is
               | encouraged along. C'est la vie.
        
               | ChuckNorris89 wrote:
               | > _Progress takes time, and requiring people burn
               | (currently, very expensive and in short supply) fossil
               | fuels to move their bodies to an office to do knowledge
               | work is silly._
               | 
               | Yet it's still mandatory for many tech jobs in Europe.
               | Companies are delusional with their butts in seats
               | culture.
        
               | sfe22 wrote:
               | Yeah, a statist can never govern you hard enough
        
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               | Clubber wrote:
               | Environmentally and economically driving to a location
               | and back every day unnecessarily is a horrible idea. It's
               | like burning a $20 bill inside a bicycle tire every day.
               | There are some cases where in person work is required to
               | do the job, but a significant portion of jobs don't
               | require it any longer (and probably haven't since the
               | late 90s).
        
       | selimthegrim wrote:
       | Related discussion here:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32081779
        
       | mhneu wrote:
       | Rupert Murdoch's WSJ. Just be a little careful as Murdoch has
       | pressured/selected editors that will spin news in the way he
       | wants.
        
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