[HN Gopher] Show HN: Debatable - Reddit with Results
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       Show HN: Debatable - Reddit with Results
        
       Author : robcorn
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2022-07-11 16:24 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | robcorn wrote:
       | Hey HN!
       | 
       | My name is Rob and I built Debatable. Very excited to launch on
       | HN, will be here to answer any questions :)
        
       | voska wrote:
       | Debate of the Day: "Is YC still a good deal?"
       | 
       | I'm curious how this one turns out.
        
         | robcorn wrote:
         | Thanks for checking it out. Thought that debate topic was
         | appropriate for launching on HN :)
        
       | curlftpfs wrote:
       | Some existing alternatives
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       | https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Should_animal_testing_be_leg...
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       | https://idebate.org/debatabase/environment-animals-philosoph...
       | 
       | What's the difference vs a reddit poll?
        
         | robcorn wrote:
         | Haven't seen these before thanks for sharing.
         | 
         | It's different from a reddit poll in two ways:
         | 
         | 1) Artificial scarcity - like Wordle or a NYTimes cover photo,
         | there's only one per day. This focuses attention to one topic
         | at a time.
         | 
         | 2) Before/after polling. The audience is polled initially and
         | then asked if they've changed their mind after a while reading
         | arguments. The winner is the debate that changes the most
         | minds.
        
       | oniridelic wrote:
       | I'm interested to see how it evolves!
       | 
       | I've been a big fan of ChangeMyView(https://www.changemyview.co/)
       | and Intelligence Squared (https://www.youtube.com/user/iqsquared)
       | and this seems like potentially a great combination of both!
       | 
       | I think polling people before the debate to get the "initial
       | odds" and then after to see how the consensus has shifted and
       | combining that with some sort of score like CMW does would go a
       | long way to advance the gamification!
        
         | robcorn wrote:
         | Big fan of Intelligence Squared but haven't seen ChangeMyView
         | before, thanks for sharing.
         | 
         | Regarding the polling suggestion, that's actually how it works!
         | Clearly need to work on the messaging a bit, to make that more
         | apparent. There's an initial poll and then you're asked if
         | you've changed your mind after a minute of reading the
         | arguments.
         | 
         | Let me know if you have any other suggestions.
        
       | etr71115 wrote:
       | Is the vote before/after supposed to be a way to determine the
       | winner?
        
         | robcorn wrote:
         | Exactly. This differentiates the product from other platforms
         | like Twitter/Reddit where you can ask polls.
        
       | johnathan2365 wrote:
       | Would you be able to comment on a debate that is "archived"?
       | Let's say if you had an opinion?
        
         | robcorn wrote:
         | Good question! Archived debates are considered complete so you
         | can't vote or comment...but you can always re-suggest the topic
         | if you feel there's more to talk about.
        
       | mikkergp wrote:
       | I've had something like this idea for a long time and I have a
       | feeling it's one of those ideas in the idea-o-sphere that lots of
       | people have that is either impossible to implement or get
       | traction on(I have a feeling the latter). Maybe it's because
       | people don't want to see someone win an argument, they just want
       | to vocalize their opinions as loudly as possible?
       | 
       | Anyways, what is your strategic advantage? How do you imagine
       | debatable progressing? Could it ever be as big as one of the
       | social media networks, or at least a well known niche? Are there
       | competitors who've done something similar?
        
         | robcorn wrote:
         | Great questions! All consumer apps have a hard time getting
         | traction. We're taking an iterative approach here.
         | 
         | The strategic advantage here is focus. Just like there's only
         | one Wordle, or the front cover of NYTimes, per day, we're
         | creating artificial scarcity by focusing peoples attention on
         | just one debate at the day.
         | 
         | I would consider this a success if people start asking
         | themselves, "hey, have you heard the debate of the day?"
         | 
         | In terms of how big this could get, keeping an open mind and
         | seeing how folks use the site.
        
       | mtthwcornacchia wrote:
       | Interesting idea. I agree with above users in that a better
       | comment management system could be created to make debates more
       | clear. I could see this being used within corporations to debate
       | ideas.
        
         | robcorn wrote:
         | Great suggestions. Think there's definitely a few ways to
         | manage comments better. Any specific suggestions in mind?
         | 
         | And +1 to using this in corporations. The hope is that the tool
         | is generic enough for all kinds of use cases!
        
       | colleencorn75 wrote:
       | Interesting... It would be great if you could see how users voted
       | as you read through comments
        
         | robcorn wrote:
         | Thanks for the suggestion! That's something we have in the
         | pipeline for post-MVP
        
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