[HN Gopher] Today I Deleted Notion
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Today I Deleted Notion
Author : Tomte
Score : 27 points
Date : 2022-07-09 07:04 UTC (1 days ago)
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| dilan-dio4 wrote:
| bikingbismuth wrote:
| Last year I got bit by the productivity bug pretty hard. I tried
| all sorts of different tools/solutions to try and be as
| productive as possible in my personal and professional life.
|
| I am ok with using multiple systems and ended up deciding on on
| three pieces of software that worked for me.
|
| - OmniFocus for tracking todos/project steps (e.g. buy a desk as
| part of my home office remodel)
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| - Notion for documenting my reasoning and researching project
| items (e.g. desks that I am thinking about getting for my home
| office remodel)
|
| - Obsidian for taking random notes/copying and pasting
| interesting stuff I come across (different styles of office desk)
| I haven't quite gotten a ZK-like workflow down for this yet
|
| The part that made this work for me was setting aside specific
| times to check OmniFocus and linking into Notion from OmniFocus.
| Just using the apps and building muscle memory to reach for the
| appropriate app helped a lot.
|
| I am sure I could simplify this using org-mode or something, but
| I'm tired of reading/learning new productivity systems.
| more_corn wrote:
| I just use notion as a non infuriating editor. I still keep local
| notes in plaintext. Google docs is probably fine too if all you
| need is shared docs. Just don't say the confluence word if you
| want to keep talking to me.
| lofatdairy wrote:
| I will say that at least Notion is a decent enough Markdown
| editor. I recall I had some small gripes with how they use
| forward-slash for commands, and probably some other stuff I've
| forgotten by now but it's certainly functional.
|
| It looks like it was designed to target the Google docs crowd of
| non-technical people in PM or other leadership roles where its
| minimalism combined with directory organization and file
| flexibility are desirable. In this sense I'm not _too_ surprised
| to see my technical friends ignore it, since there are so many
| tools in this niche already (Github wikis come to mind as an
| alternative for documenting various decisions, challenges,
| implementations, etc). I guess the real flaw with these sorts of
| products is that they're tools that are treated as solutions.
| There's no real need to add another tool to a org stack if what's
| working already isn't broken, and doing so obviously won't
| guarantee a massive increase in "productivity". You can document
| the shit out of blockers but at the end of the day someone with
| knowledge is still going to have to step in and help. This moreso
| goes for clickup and monday.com, though, which advertised the
| shit out of the Boston and NYC subways (clickup did a terrible
| job, I never really found out what they were until I googled it
| some months later and found it was yet another PM suite and I
| don't even recall what they're UI looks like).
|
| Also, it's kinda absurd to me that notion feels the need to have
| both a certification program as well as a list of "certified
| consultants" who are "productivity experts and solutions
| architects". David Graeber would probably feel
| vindicated/depressed.
| Spivak wrote:
| > It looks like it was designed to target the Google docs crowd
| of non-technical people.
|
| This doesn't mirror my experience at all. I'm super technical
| and after evaluating all the options I landed on Notion because
| it's by far the most "get out of the way and just write."
|
| Notion: Go to documentation, see an area where you have
| something to add, click, type, done.
|
| "Pages": Go to documentation, see an area where you have
| something to add, context switch to your terminal, maybe clone
| it, create a new branch, go to the pages repo, go to the file,
| add your change, commit, push, open a PR, post a message to
| slack for someone to click approve, merge.
| danpalmer wrote:
| I'm not sure this is particularly damning criticism of Notion,
| but rather of the cult of productivity that has taken hold of a
| corner of the internet over the last few years. Roam, Superhuman,
| Obsidian, et al, are all in this too.
|
| I actually found Notion pretty good as a company wiki at a
| previous role. It has its issues, and the engineers liked it less
| than people in non-technical roles, but as an accessible wiki
| with lightweight structuring of data, it's pretty good.
| radu_floricica wrote:
| Superhuman is Really useful. And almost completely devoid of
| friction.
| gbourne wrote:
| I'm giving Superhuman a second go. So far it is O.K. - I keep
| going back to Gmail, perhaps because I'm so use to its
| workflow.
| SaulJLH wrote:
| Site's a bit of a turn off in several ways:
| https://superhuman.com/ Still, guess I might give it shot...
| SaulJLH wrote:
| LOL what... Won't even let me dload/test anything. Wants me
| to pay 30/mth via cc 1st. Yeah, no...
| desindol wrote:
| endre wrote:
| Yeah I switched to i3 years ago.
| johnchristopher wrote:
| It's Notion the block based knowledge base thingy, not the
| tiling manager (which got renamed from ion3 to notion I read).
| systemvoltage wrote:
| If we use the analogy of physical stationery and forms, each one
| serves a specific, tailor made purpose. A tax form, daily journal
| form, double entry accounting form, an invoice, etc. are
| specifically designed for that purpose. You could technically use
| a blank page as a starting point to make any kind of form you
| need, but straight up blank pages are not very efficient outside
| of personal home use.
|
| Notion and its brethen, AirTable, etc. are just pain in the ass
| to set up. They're infinitely customizeable and that's a bug, not
| a feature IMO.
|
| I'll take a proper CRM or a Wiki tool over a blank slate.
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