[HN Gopher] Tracking Everything I Wore For 1 Year
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Tracking Everything I Wore For 1 Year
Author : 0x54MUR41
Score : 154 points
Date : 2022-07-02 08:18 UTC (14 hours ago)
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| wcedmisten wrote:
| This is awesome! Makes me wonder what else you could track with a
| boatload of NFC tags like this.
|
| Kitchen ingredients? Houseplant watering schedules?
|
| I might have to try out a project like this.
| andrenader wrote:
| They make cheap sticker ones that I used for testing before
| upgrading to the machine washable buttons. Combined with apple
| shortcuts lots of interesting things you can automate.
| wcedmisten wrote:
| If you're looking to do more analysis on this data, it would
| be cool to see a correlation matrix for different articles of
| clothing in different categories. E.g. looking at how
| frequently you wear certain tops/bottoms together, or
| bottoms/shoes.
|
| https://www.displayr.com/what-is-a-correlation-matrix/
|
| Another example of this chart I saw recently was examining
| compound curse words on reddit:
|
| https://colinmorris.github.io/blog/compound-curse-
| words#the-...
| neogodless wrote:
| I like the trick I learned to hang all your shirts with the
| hanger the wrong way. Then when you wash them, hang them
| normally.
|
| Each spring, if a long-sleeve shirt is still the wrong way, it's
| time to get rid of it. Then I hang all remaining the wrong way
| for next fall/winter. Short sleeve get culled in late fall, with
| the rest reversed for next spring/summer.
|
| Like the author, there are a few I hang on to, for practical (or
| sentimental) reasons. Sometimes I'll keep an disliked t-shirt
| around because I'll probably use it for grimy yard work at some
| point.
| brk wrote:
| That is a good system if you spend most of your time in the
| same general area/climate.
|
| I live in a warm climate and have managed to transition to
| doing very little business travel anymore. But when I go
| someplace where it's too cold to wear shorts and t-shirt (or
| where I just want to wear something slightly more business
| appropriate) I often have to pack things that I might not have
| worn for a year or more.
| IfOnlyYouKnew wrote:
| I've sometimes had items of clothing I disliked for a decade,
| then suddenly found extremely great.
|
| But I do agree with the practice for short-sleeved shirts (not
| t-shirts), except the time for culling is not late fall, but
| rather, if applicable, early afternoon. Somehow it's an item
| strictly reserved for middle-aged overweight bus drivers in my
| neck of the woods.
| yosito wrote:
| This seems to me like a case of premature (or unnecessary)
| optimization. If one really wants to optimize their wardrobe,
| following a more Steve Jobs-like approach, and reducing the
| number of garments owned is the way to go.
|
| Due to my carry-on-only lifestyle I own ~ one week of warm
| weather clothing, combined with a few warmer layers that I wear
| in colder weather. I wear almost the same thing every week, and I
| wear it until it's worn out, then replace it. I never own
| anything I don't wear.
|
| It's so simple, and I waste so little time and money on my
| clothes. I _am_ fashion conscious though: the little clothing I
| buy is usually designer or highly technical, and neutral colors
| which can be combined in many different ways and still match.
| laserlight wrote:
| Can you expand on highly technical clothing? I don't know what
| technologies are there in clothing, but I'm very interested in
| trying them.
| have_faith wrote:
| Technical clothing just means materials that have a purpose
| beyond looking good e.g. sweat/moisture wicking, light amount
| of stretch while staying tear resistant, having better
| ventilating material in certain places etc. It's sometimes
| confused with urban technical streetware brands but really
| it's any smart or casual clothes that take a lot of influence
| from hiking gear without looking like you're going for a
| hike.
| andrenader wrote:
| I love unnecessary optimization! This was a fun little project.
| My end goal of to be more like you. I had just lost a lot of
| weight and before buying the few higher quality items I wanted
| to be more informed about which ones I personally would get the
| most value from.
| philips wrote:
| Amazing that there are just off the shelf nfc tags shaped like
| clothing buttons.
| capableweb wrote:
| Yeah, and for $0.28 apiece as well, so getting 500 of those for
| just $140. I'm starting to want to glue one of those to
| everything I own now, which is less than 500 items.
| loonster wrote:
| It makes me wonder how many of my clothes already have an nfc
| tag permanently attached, but I don't know because I never
| checked.
| curiousgal wrote:
| Wouldn't they trigger the detectors at stores?
| Etheryte wrote:
| You mean the security gates? Those don't use NFC, at least
| I've never seen one that does. EAS systems are old technology
| and that also means they're usually dirt cheap. Perhaps there
| would be some niche use for NFC, but I can't think of one.
| daedlanth wrote:
| yay
| heavyset_go wrote:
| This is something Patrick Bateman would do if American Psycho was
| set in 2022.
| coip wrote:
| This is awesome, well done!
| at_a_remove wrote:
| I am fortunate in that I have a uniform budget from my job and
| unfortunate in that nice clothes are really a case of "polishing
| a turd" due to my unattractiveness, so I just coast by on what my
| job provides.
| thanatos519 wrote:
| Wow, that's a lot of clothes! I wear like 10
| [t-shirts,socks,underwear] and 2 pairs of [pants,shorts,footwear]
| and replace them at the thrift shop (except underwear and
| footwear) when they wear out. Counting jackets and hats and
| sportswear and more-formal-wear (i.e. shirts with buttons and
| collars) it can't all be worth $500.
| bstpierre wrote:
| I had the same reaction, though for me I have a bunch more
| tshirts, most of which I didn't pay for. I just keep two piles
| of shirts on my shelf. In the morning I take the top shirt off
| the "active" pile. Clean shirts from the laundry go on top of
| the other pile. When they wear out they go into the garage as
| rags.
|
| Side note, I think cost per wear should factor in laundry
| costs. I suppose you could consider that just part of overhead
| if everything is just wash & wear, but it would come into play
| if you had anything that needed special treatment (suits to dry
| cleaners or something).
| Jaruzel wrote:
| I live in the following: - 2 pairs of jeans, on
| rotate - About 20 t-shirts - 20-ish sets of
| underwear + socks - About 3-4 sweaters/jumpers/hoodies
| - 1 pair of boots - 1 pair of worn out trainers
|
| That's basically it. Some of my t-shirts are over 15 years old,
| in fact 99% of what I wear is over 3 years old. Spending over
| $500 in a year on clothing is totally alien to me!
|
| Einstein had it right:
|
| _" Albert Einstein reportedly bought several variations of the
| same grey suit so that he wouldn't have to waste time deciding
| what to wear each morning."_
|
| The only clothing I actually care about are my t-shirts. They
| all have graphic prints on them depicting things I care about.
| Mostly Films or Metal Bands.
|
| Oddly, the worn-out trainers I wear I bought new on eBay
| several years ago, and it was only some time later that I
| realised they were limited edition Nike Cortezs that have since
| sky rocketed in price (for new-in-box) and now cost PS500+ . I
| bought them because I liked the colour, and have practically
| worn them to death. Trainer/sneaker collectors must hate me
| now.
| hhmc wrote:
| > Spending over $500 in a year on clothing is totally alien
| to me!
|
| If you care about ethical production it's difficult to spend
| less.
|
| > "Albert Einstein reportedly bought several variations of
| the same grey suit so that he wouldn't have to waste time
| deciding what to wear each morning."
|
| This sounds incredibly joyless -- the aesthetic equivalent of
| eating huel for every meal.
| ggktk wrote:
| I prefer to find my joy in things that are not food or
| clothes.
| hhmc wrote:
| Yes, HN does seem to skew heavily towards a sort of
| performative rejection of simple pleasures.
|
| Personally I don't think it's zero sum, enjoying your
| meals won't make your immaterial pursuits less worthy,
| for example.
| causality0 wrote:
| _This sounds incredibly joyless -- the aesthetic equivalent
| of eating huel for every meal._
|
| That depends on how you derive joy from it. My wardrobe is
| fully interchangeable and I generally pick what I wear at
| random. It's all carefully selected to be a reflection of
| my personal taste. Having a personal uniform makes me quite
| happy.
| lotsofpulp wrote:
| > This sounds incredibly joyless -- the aesthetic
| equivalent of eating huel for every meal.
|
| Joyless for some, bliss for others.
| AnxietyJello wrote:
| I think that's fair approach to something you don't care
| too much about, like your clothes for example. Sounds like
| he just wanted to look presentable. I think it only becomes
| a problem if it's a pattern that you apply to multiple
| things in your life.
| naniwaduni wrote:
| > If you care about ethical production it's difficult to
| spend less.
|
| Is it a requirement of ethical production that clothes
| don't last and must be regularly replaced??
| hhmc wrote:
| Clearly not, that's such an uncharitable read of what I'm
| saying that it doesn't feel worth responding to.
| naniwaduni wrote:
| I'm not sure what you're trying to write that implies
| that ethical clothing production requires $500 annual
| clothing spend, then.
| yakak wrote:
| It is highly ethical to buy used clothes, wear them for
| multiple years and then return them to the flow as the OP
| suggested. It is morally dubious to fund greenification
| projects that pretend there is environmentally friendly
| cotton that is very expensive, etc.
| davidro80 wrote:
| While I respect your frugality, I will respectfully ponder...
| are you dressing fashionably? Not trying to be a wanker but
| as I've gotten older I have become more enlightened to...
| dressing for effect.
| Jaruzel wrote:
| Of course I don't dress 'fashionably'. I'm middle aged. My
| 'fashion' is my personal style - I like it, and stick with
| it.
|
| The fashion industry exists to sell more clothes, and I
| won't be part of it.
| phasersout wrote:
| I always own a fortnight's worth of underpants so I can go on
| a two week vacation without having to worry about laundry...
| oxplot wrote:
| I'll join the minimalists here. For the past decade, I've only
| had about 6 shirts, two pair of denim pants, one pair of boots,
| 4 pairs of socks, a rain coat and a jacket. I go through one
| pants every 2 years (as it gets riddled with holes I can't
| patch up anymore). Most but a few are black and made out of
| wool. Having worn wool clothing, it's hard to go back to
| cotton, linen or synthetic. Not only wool dries super fast and
| regulates body temperature better, it doesn't get smelly as
| fast as the other fabrics. Black color hides hard to remove
| stains that otherwise would require harsh chemicals to get rid
| of, reducing the fabric's life.
|
| The main reason for living this way is not to have to spend
| brain cycles deciding what to wear every day.
| blfr wrote:
| _Wow, that 's a lot of clothes!_
|
| Funny, I looked at his $3,907.65 total estimate and though that
| it's quite low for an adult.
|
| Consider though that OP used retail prices, not thrift shop.
| ghaff wrote:
| Even leaving out a lot of expensive business/formal clothing
| --which is less common in most circles these days--specialty
| outdoor activities clothing and footwear adds up in a hurry,
| especially if you do stuff in cold/snowy winters. It wouldn't
| surprise me if my winter outdoor gear added up to that by
| itself. I admittedly have way too much old clothing I rarely
| wear (and even more that I really wouldn't miss) but I'm sure
| my inventory is still way more than that.
| chrismeller wrote:
| I found "more-formal-wear" to include "shirts with buttons" to
| be quite funny. Just think, you could class up your entire
| wardrobe by sewing NFC buttons to random shirts that don't need
| them...
| mwint wrote:
| A tip: You can buy decent, unbranded t-shirts from places like
| [0] for low single digit dollars. I finally got tired of every
| shirt being subtly different, remembering which ones fit which
| way, and just bought 15 t-shirts. Same model number, same size,
| assortment of colors.
|
| There's a weird thrill I get in the morning knowing that this is
| one less decision.
|
| [0]: https://www.t-shirtwholesaler.com/
| neodymiumphish wrote:
| The cartoon characters have been doing it right for decades!
| Saint_Genet wrote:
| Whenever I buy cheap clothes I end up regretting it. A quality
| t-shirt will not only last 3 times as long as a cheap one,
| it'll actually look good during its lifespan
| id wrote:
| The shirts might be under $3, but I wonder what is the human
| cost?
| mwint wrote:
| The same as the shirts you'd buy at a normal box chain,
| probably.
| AH4oFVbPT4f8 wrote:
| I've done this but from jiffyshirts.com. I usually would
| purchase the Gildan brand but they would end up shrinking
| overtime. Which is better, 3 shirts at $3 that shrink overtime
| or 1 shirt at $15 ?
|
| I think the key is to find something that is not 100% cotton
| but rather 50% cotton/50% polyester. Looking at the material
| difference between the shirts I've purchased, the Gildan
| heather colors are 50/50 where as the the other colors are
| either 100% cotton or 90/10. By comparison, the Dickies
| heavyweight and Carhartt heavyweight are 50/50 and 60/40
| material.
| mwint wrote:
| How much time are we talking about? I'm maybe 9 months into
| my batch of Gildan shirts, and haven't noticed anything yet.
| AH4oFVbPT4f8 wrote:
| Depends on the material. 100% cotton lasts weeks to months
| before it shrinks. The blended material shirts tend to last
| longer in my experience.
| VLM wrote:
| The most interesting observation I made was color. Everything
| worn was gray or darkest blue at the flashiest. I was surprised
| to see no analysis of color. It would be interesting to quantify
| if the author's "bottom half" was generally 5% darker than the
| author's "top half" or maybe the opposite or maybe it averages
| out exactly the same.
|
| I live in a 4-season state and I would be pretty interested to
| see if I, or people in general in my area, vary their average
| clothing color by the season. I would theorize the people get
| tanned in the summer, intentionally or not, varying by race quite
| a bit of course, and that skin tone change would influence
| average clothing color selections. Another theory is I notice I
| wear slightly warmer-brighter clothes in the winter, in an
| opposition to winter's dreariness, I almost feel compelled to
| wear a bright Hawaiian shirt if its snowing. A third theory is
| people would wear lighter colors around the peak of summer to
| limit solar heating. A fourth theory I have is summer heat seems
| most comfy in clothing that's tighter or looser than average for
| cooling reasons and middle of the road size would the minimum of
| comfort in the heat, whereas in the winter middle of the road
| tightness would seem the best balance of warmth and comfort.
| These theories could all be wrong, or right, of course.
|
| A completely different side issue is over the years I accumulate
| more self-created uniforms and I wonder if that would show up in
| the data. I have a uniform of grungy old clothes resembling the
| color of used motor oil for changing oil or similar greasy repair
| jobs. I have exactly one set of grungy clothes I wear when I
| paint that are all stained up so I don't care if I stain them
| worse. I have exactly one set of clothes for lawnmowing/yardwork,
| the specific type of synthetic seems to clean up well from tree
| sap and the shoes are a grass-stained lost cause. I have a set of
| clothes specifically for shoveling/snowblowing that "tech" stuff
| that dries quickly because sweating and cold equals hypothermia,
| or at least extreme discomfort. Most people already have that set
| of clothes they wear to the gym or other exercise, of course.
| andrenader wrote:
| Thanks for reading! I do need a little more color in my life.
| The one key observation I made was:
|
| "Was fascinating to see how color played a big part in wear
| rates as well. My theory here is simply that my household
| doesn't own enough white clothing items so the "white load" of
| laundry is bi-weekly vs weekly for everything else."
| exceptione wrote:
| This is peak HN; I am enjoying it. People boasting about how ones
| garderobe is more shitty and cheaper than the others. Next topic:
| why does no one wants to date me?
|
| Clothing is not only functional, it can also help your
| appearance. Looking good does wonders for your mood. Sex appeal
| and all that. Unfortunately, aesthetics is positively correlated
| with price. I wish it wasn't true. I can easily spot your outfit
| was cheaply made. I am talking about casual wear.
|
| Premium labels really go the extra mile. Fast, cheap fashion cuts
| lots of corners.
| iamacyborg wrote:
| > Premium labels really go the extra mile.
|
| Depends on the label, you generally have to go really premium
| to genuinely get something either well made or particularly
| interesting.
| wooque wrote:
| I dress like shit and I have gf. I will go out on a limb and
| say that it even helped my dating (by weeding out undesirable
| partners).
| Kiro wrote:
| Tired of this lifestyle and self-improvement nonsense on a
| forum called Hacker News. Real hackers sit with a big Unix
| beard in a dark basement filled with old pizza boxes and empty
| Jolt Cola cans. The only time you should even meet another
| person is on a demo party.
| NicoJuicy wrote:
| Looking good can make an impression that you don't want.
| gernb wrote:
| > Premium labels really go the extra mile. Fast, cheap fashion
| cuts lots of corners.
|
| I don't disagree that there's good fashion and shoddy fashion
| but I disagree "premium labels" is how to find good fashion.
| For me, And I know I'm in the minority here, I find any fashion
| that shows the branding to be horrible. A plain t-shirt that
| says nothing vs plain t-shirt with a tiny "Boss", "LV",
| "Gucci", "Prada" branding on it for 5x to 10x the cost really
| says "I hoping you'll like my because I'm wearing expensive
| clothing". It does not say "I have good fashion sense".
|
| Taken to an extreme you get people covered in labels. This is
| not "good fashion"
|
| https://img.5milesapp.com/image/upload/f_auto,t_i800/v150598...
|
| But it is "premium labels"
|
| I certainly agree that dressing well (different definitions of
| well) generally has positive outcomes. Much of my family is
| fine wearing dirty old soiled t-shirts with holes in them and
| it bugs me. Especially when I want to take them somewhere and
| they're clearly out of place in those clothes relative to the
| rest of the people around. At the same time they're all doing
| fine and no care.
| ollifi wrote:
| I dapple in the clothes industry and sometimes it feels like
| people get really turned off if their clothes are not made by
| literal slaves. Not all expensive brands are ethical but the
| few dollar t-shirts etc are never. Drift it or pay for the real
| costs involved. If we don't fix the idea about what basic
| necessities like clothes should cost the planet and people
| living on it are toast.
| treis wrote:
| The problem with this is that there's not necessarily a
| relationship between price paid and lack of slave labor. At
| least, you can't guarantee non slave labor by paying more.
| comboy wrote:
| > aesthetics is positively correlated with price. I wish it
| wasn't true.
|
| I guess it depends on the taste. I would say the opposite is
| true (perhaps excluding the most cheap things you can find, but
| not necessarily).
|
| Of course more expensive stuff will likely last longer and in
| many cases will be more practical.
| puppymaster wrote:
| Diminishing returns after a certain price threshold but true
| still.
| teh_klev wrote:
| > Next topic: why does no one wants to date me?
|
| > Sex appeal and all that
|
| That's just nonsense. My wardrobe value has never exceeded
| ~GBP250. I buy new clothing probably once every 2-3 years and
| even then the average spend is around GBP40-60, usually when
| stuff has completely worn out. I've only owned one or two items
| of clothing that had a "label" and they were from TKMax.
|
| As a bloke, despite cheaping out on my sartorial choices I've
| never had a problem with dates/sex/relationships. It's all
| about personality, not being a dick and maintaining some
| semblance of basic personal hygiene.
| [deleted]
| lament76 wrote:
| It's mainly about being in a social group that facilitates
| romantic relationships and marriage, and/or putting personal
| effort into dating. People with no hygiene mate a lot.
| laserlight wrote:
| > Looking good does wonders for your mood.
|
| For _your_ mood perhaps. I find "good looking" clothing
| uncomfortable, which makes me feel like shit.
| hardwaregeek wrote:
| What exactly do you find uncomfortable about them? Genuinely
| asking. Good looking clothes isn't necessarily a button up
| and slacks. You can look great in sweatpants and a t shirt.
| It's more about fit, color and general aesthetic.
| laserlight wrote:
| I agree. That's why I put scare quotes around good looking.
| Sweatpants and a t-shirt are not stereotypically considered
| good looking. Button up and slacks do.
| NikolaNovak wrote:
| That's interesting; care to elaborate, out of genuine
| curiosity?
|
| I don't care about fashion, even a little bit. I don't agree
| with grand-parent post that you need fancy clothes to attract
| a mate. I'm happy to buy 5 copies of exact same thing that
| fits me. But in terms of sheer physical comfort, I'm
| endlessly perplexed by casual fridays and even more so by
| e.g. people who change out of business casual clothes and
| into jeans the millisecond they're home (which is basically
| everyone I know, so I admit I'm clearly the exception:)
|
| A tall lanky male, I find basic business-casual pants the
| most light weight, practical, not-in-my-way comfortable, well
| breathing, perfect temperature pants. Jeans are way too
| constraining and hard and inflexible! In 90% of the weather
| they put too much heat and pressure on my nether regions. In
| both cut and material, they were designed to be hard-wearing,
| not comfortable, so I assume it's psychology that has people
| prefer them. And most sweat pants don't breathe as well as my
| lightweight casual business dress pants either, and don't fit
| me around hips/waist - they either fall off, or are too
| tight.
|
| The business-casual pants are "inappropriate" to wear at
| home, so I don't, but I put them on anytime we really go
| anywhere. People make fun that I'm "way over dressed", and
| fair enough, but for the life of me I don't understand what
| is "uncomfortable" about lightweight business casual pants
| and loose, not-tucked-in polo shirt.
|
| (not to mention that "looking good" is not necessarily a
| button down shirt and dress pants to begin with, but that's
| another relevant conversation:)
| exceptione wrote:
| To be sure, I didn't mean one needs a suit or dress pants.
| I don't like them even, but I can imagine you like the
| weight if that is important for you. The downside is that
| they are more prone to wear then denim.
|
| Personally I prefer some good premium jeans. Nudie and
| g-star are excellent choices. If you are in your twenties,
| definitely combine it with a button down shirt or a good
| hoodie. I didn't mean people should show up in a suit, on
| the contrary. But, as a general comment to the other
| commentators, if you buy your jeans for 20 euro and your
| t-shirt for 5 euro at your convenience store, I bet you are
| not going to look well like you could. At least in The
| Netherlands, in my experience, it is hard to get a sweater
| for 50 euro with a premium look, at least outside of the
| sale cycle. Shopping during sale might help to get the
| better stuff.
| owlninja wrote:
| It is really more about fit and quality of materials (to a
| certain price point).
| laserlight wrote:
| In my experience, highest quality and best fitting button
| down shirt is a comfort nightmare compared to a good
| fitting t-shirt. Same for dress shoes vs casual wear shoes.
| adamisom wrote:
| I recently bought two linen shirts for the first time and
| they're heaven in both looks and feel.
| walrus01 wrote:
| > This is peak HN; I am enjoying it. People boasting about how
| ones garderobe is more shitty and cheaper than the others. Next
| topic: why does no one wants to date me?
|
| > Clothing is not only functional, it can also help your
| appearance. Looking good does wonders for your mood. Sex appeal
| and all that.
|
| I would bet good money this was written by a straight man, but
| have you ever considered there's also butch lesbians working in
| blue collar jobs that have wardrobes which are primarily
| composed of functional, rugged clothing, often in dark colors
| that don't meet your requirement of getting dates and having
| sex appeal?
|
| not just one segment of society (straight cis male HN reading
| six figure job guys who don't put effort into dressing
| themselves) wears something other than what your societal
| expecations think they should to not be "shitty" and "cheap".
|
| your comment itself is peak HN...
| haalia wrote:
| I don't associate functional, rugged workwear with "shitty
| and cheap" myself. Having gone through a workwear phase, I
| know exactly how expensive quality functional clothing can
| be.
| rmk wrote:
| Fast fashion is also very harsh on the environment. There is a
| lot of waste in fast fashion. Much better to buy a smaller
| number of well-made articles of clothing and take care of them.
| If you have clothing tailored to fit you well, you will look
| and feel like a million bucks. It doesn't hurt that you may
| also become more attractive to the opposite sex. It's the same
| with personal hygiene and good grooming: it is first and
| foremost an aid to better health, both physical and mental, and
| second, a simple way of conveying to the outside world that you
| are a dependable, social and happy person. However, based on my
| observations of men, particularly younger men, in software, I
| have to say they are very poor at taking good care of
| themselves, physically or mentally, despite a lot of talk about
| mental health.
|
| Most of the folks in tech, and commenting on this article are
| likely men in their twenties, and men in that age group do not
| care very much about their outfits. They also do not have good
| grooming habits, probably because no one thought to drill it
| into them at a young age. I have also noticed that if a person
| in engineering dresses well, he begins to stand out and attract
| negative attention and comments from his peers, which can
| discourage even tentative attempts at improving himself in this
| department (most men in the engineering side of this profession
| are somewhat shy and reserved to begin with).
| andrenader wrote:
| Hey HN, this is my original content. Happy to answer any
| questions. Turned out to be a fun little project.
| martinsmit wrote:
| Hey, thanks for the writeup, I thought this was very
| interesting. Were there any items that surprised you in how
| long or short they hold up for?
| andrenader wrote:
| Since I only talked for a year I didn't get into the full
| life of items. Some of my clothes I've owned for 10 years
| too!
|
| One good realization was recognizing the type of items I
| would immediately come to wherever they were clean. As well
| as the awesome potentially low cost per wear of items that
| can be worn multiple times per week (obvious in retrospect
| but nice to know that spending a little more for quality on
| shoes, pants, and jackets can be worth it).
| JoeAltmaier wrote:
| Can't relate. No Ren-Fair costumes? No gardening boots, gloves or
| shirts? What about hiking clothes?
|
| I own about 4 mundane shirts, 3 pairs of pants. That's it. Not
| much to track for me.
| chrismeller wrote:
| Sometimes I wonder if people notice that I wear the same 4-5
| shirts over and over every week. All of my long sleeve shirts
| were bought I think from Sears back before their fall, so my
| cost-per-wear has to be astronomically low by now.
| deebosong wrote:
| I was dating this one person who works in fashion. All my
| clothes are neutral basics, so I can just wear whatever on
| any given day and look similar but vaguely different. Said
| person picked up on my entire wardrobe once noticing I
| started recycling items, probably on date 6 or 7, and let me
| know hahah.
|
| I guess some people have a knack for detail about such
| things.
| SapporoChris wrote:
| I was wondering about my costs too, but since I didn't
| obsessively track how many times I wear a single item a more
| simple analysis is annual cost divided by the year. $150
| spent annually on shoes. $150/365 = $0.41 daily.
|
| Guesstimating your costs: 5 shirts $20 to $40 each (guessing
| Sears costs) $100 to $200 annual cost or $0.27 to $0.55 daily
| costs for shirts.
| bowsamic wrote:
| Anyone who is bothered by that is not someone you should care
| about
| WHA8m wrote:
| 'noticing something' is neutral. 'bothered' is indeed not
| the way.
| bowsamic wrote:
| If someone notices it in a neutral way then why does it
| matter? I've noticed colleagues wearing the same t Shirt
| repeatedly and not put any more thought to it
| WHA8m wrote:
| it doesn't. that's the point. the comment I was replying
| to was down-voted and I suspected people misread exactly
| that.
| lab14 wrote:
| Unless clothes are dirty or you smell bad, people really
| don't care about your clothes, you're not the center of the
| world.
| FullStackAda wrote:
| Agree when we are talking about random people on the
| streets and fleeting encounters. But, for example, I would
| not go to an interview in sweatpants and flip-flops. There
| are also social situations where I expect my counterparts
| to be dressed with more care. It is not necessarily the
| right way to treat people but I've witnessed several times
| someone being judged in professional situations for very
| wrinkled, old threadbare t-shirts, as an example.
|
| Mine is a European perspective.
| shadowofneptune wrote:
| This is absolutely true. Even then, if you only need it
| for those occasions then that takes up a very small part
| of the wardrobe. A single outfit of formal wear and a
| small selection of normal wear is what my closet looks
| like, would imagine most people in the world have
| wardrobes like that due to the expense of clothing. I do
| like wearing it when I have the chance, though.
| petecooper wrote:
| For anyone in the UK, I swear by my army desert socks. Very
| comfy, very hard-wearing, very tolerant to any kind of laundry
| cycle. eBay is a good place to start:
|
| https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=army+desert+socks
| peanut_worm wrote:
| If I saw the cost per wear on some of my shoes I think i'd lock
| my credit card in a safe.
| DeltaCoast wrote:
| Thanks for sharing! I think it's pretty interesting to look at
| cost per wear. Wish I could get the same insights from my
| wardrobe without all of the effort.
| simonebrunozzi wrote:
| A fashion brand could take inspiration from this, and offer a
| clothes-as-a-service.
| altdataseller wrote:
| Stitch Fix offers that
| ghaff wrote:
| That seems to be picking out clothes for you to buy?
|
| Rental expensive formal clothes for special occasions is
| obviously a thing. But as with many other things, the
| overhead of renting stuff for day to day use just doesn't
| work for most cases.
| maccard wrote:
| It is. Other sites do exist for renting clothing like hurr
| and by rotation.
| rmk wrote:
| I think there's something called Rent the Runway that offers
| this, for women. Then there's Stitch Fix, which is basically a
| kinda-sorta personal shopper who will pick things out for you
| (but within a very restricted set of vendors and price points).
| grepfru_it wrote:
| LOL this is awesome! I ran choosemyboxers.com in college back in
| 2001 and had people rate and pick my underwear. I told all my
| friends and no one found it interesting because my boxers were
| "lame". One month it randomly blew up and I got enough ad revenue
| to replace my entire boxer collection. However it never went
| anywhere so I let it stagnate and eventually the shell I was
| hosting it on moved on to new ventures
| TedDoesntTalk wrote:
| It looks like he wore about 64 unique items in a year. Excluding
| two pairs of shoes. That seems like a lot?
| ghaff wrote:
| It's been less the last couple of years because of limited
| travel and business gathering but counting outdoor activity
| gear--not really.
| casion wrote:
| > Current Wardrobe Value: $3,907.65
|
| I don't have any friends (and I'm happy with this), so I have no
| reference: do people normally really spend this much on
| clothing!?
|
| My entire wardrobe is worth around $150, and that's 70% socks.
| vasco wrote:
| Amount of money spent on clothes probably correlates strongly
| to number of social events, no friends probably means you just
| care about warm feet.
| casion wrote:
| That's understandable, however is near this value usual for
| people who are frequently social with overlapping attendees?
| sushid wrote:
| I mean a decent pair of pants is at least $100 and a shirt
| is $15-20. Throw in a few shoes and jackets and $4k is very
| reasonable, depending on the weather.
| iamacyborg wrote:
| I probably have more than that in shoes alone.
| andrenader wrote:
| OP here. The value here is really the price it was when new.
| Most of the clothes was purchased over the past 10+ years. I
| didn't buy any new clothes the year prior to this project at
| all. I spent more in clothes during the project than I had in
| the prior few years. But I also had lost nearly 50 pounds and
| my old clothes wasn't really fitting.
| casion wrote:
| I want to make it clear that I'm not criticizing, but
| genuinely curious. I don't care if people spend their money
| on clothing. More power to anyone who does and derives joy
| from it.
|
| Thank you for more clarification, but I'm still curious if
| you feel this is about average for your social circle or
| area?
| PuppyTailWags wrote:
| IMO it would be pretty normal for a collection of clothing
| over 10+ years for someone with a pretty robust social
| life. I immediately am thinking of weddings, formal events,
| party events, family events, exercising, dates (both formal
| and informal), interviews, and work (I assume this person
| may have worked in workplaces of various formality).
| rmk wrote:
| Let me get this straight: You own $150 worth of clothes, and
| $105 of it comprises socks (I'm gonna go out on a limb and
| guess that they are the white, crew kind?). With $45 worth of
| 'clothes', I'm assuming you have boxers and such, which
| probably take up another $30. Do you even wear anything other
| than boxer, undershirt, and socks? I mean, unless your comment
| is pure hyperbole, I am having a difficult time visualizing
| your wardrobe! In fact, no matter the distribution, I am still
| having a hard time understanding how you make do with a $150
| wardrobe. Do you wash your entire wardrobe literally every day?
| If so, does it last longer than a year?
| jaqalopes wrote:
| Judging by the name of the blog (FAANG FIRE) I suspect this
| person is plenty well compensated in some sort of prestigious
| tech job, and if that's the case, then this number doesn't
| surprise me at all. There are lots of trendy athleisure and
| technical wear companies that will sell you the equivalent of a
| sweatshirt for $80, that can add up quick.
| spaetzleesser wrote:
| "My entire wardrobe is worth around $150, and that's 70%
| socks."
|
| that doesn't seem possible. If you get a pair of pants, a shirt
| and shoes it's very likely you are already above $150. Never
| mind jackets, underwear and other stuff.
| rufus_foreman wrote:
| >> If you get a pair of pants, a shirt and shoes it's very
| likely you are already above $150
|
| That's like $10 at a thrift shop or garage sale. Used to live
| like that back when I was poor. Now that I'm rich I wear a
| white T-shirt and sweatpants 99.9% of the time since I have
| barely left the house in the last 2 and a half years.
| casion wrote:
| I get my clothing secondhand/cheap. I suppose we can
| differentiate "worth" and "paid for", but even the clothing I
| have is mid-level/cheap brands (except socks).
|
| - $105 - 5 pairs of socks (purchased because of lifetime
| warranty and comfort)
|
| - $15 - 5 boxers, purchased new
|
| - $8 - 7 shirts (new on ebay)
|
| - $10 - 1 pair of shoes (very lucky to find these in my
| size!)
|
| - $5 - 2 pairs of shorts
|
| - $5 - 2 pairs of pants
|
| I do laundry about every 3-5 days.
| quickthrowman wrote:
| At least you put your money where it matters most: socks! I
| wear the same kind of socks and they're definitely worth
| the ~$20/pair.
| FullStackAda wrote:
| If there is a proper winter where someone lives, $150 would
| barely be enough for a proper winter jacket, no shoes.
| indentit wrote:
| In my experience, socks are pretty expensive (at least here in
| Lithuania) and wear out pretty fast, so for me its reasonable
| to spend most of the clothing budget on socks...
| prvit wrote:
| I have many individual pieces of clothing worth more than that.
| Nice cashmere is expensive, but soooo soft.
|
| A basic sweater from Loro Piana can easily run a few k, but is
| absolutely worth the price.
|
| Sky is the limit when it comes to outerwear, I've paid around
| $15k for a nice fur-lined coat. Worth it? Depends on the
| weather, sometimes I have doubts, but then the winter comes.
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