[HN Gopher] Netflix lays off 300 additional staff
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       Netflix lays off 300 additional staff
        
       Author : t3rabytes
       Score  : 43 points
       Date   : 2022-06-23 18:29 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.theverge.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theverge.com)
        
       | cheriot wrote:
       | The Verge article is a summary of this one:
       | https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/netflix-c...
        
       | ssiddharth wrote:
       | Any idea which departments the 300 being let go are from? Would
       | be interesting, in a rather morbid sense...
        
         | GekkePrutser wrote:
         | It could also tell us customers a bit about what kind of impact
         | to expect from this. Content -wise if it's buyers. Or
         | reliability wise if it's tech people.
        
           | onphonenow wrote:
           | There were claims that the last round significantly impacted
           | folks working on some critical intersectional across race /
           | ethnicity / gender identity type programming.
           | 
           | There were some articles about the layoffs last time and the
           | major backlash that resulted. Protocol covered this, noting
           | "Protocol identified at least 40 people from marginalized
           | backgrounds who lost their jobs in the latest round of cuts."
           | 
           | Interestingly, as I read this Meta announcement a settlement
           | on similar discrimination claims:
           | 
           | "Discrimination in housing, employment and credit is a deep-
           | rooted problem with a long history in the US, and we are
           | committed to broadening opportunities for marginalized
           | communities in these spaces and others," Roy Austin Jr.,
           | Meta's vice president of civil rights, wrote in a blog post.
        
             | gamblor956 wrote:
             | It was people working for _marketing_ related to gender-
             | and race-based programming that Netflix also mostly dropped
             | in the past year when it decided to shift from targeting
             | niche audiences to going for the pure-blockbuster play
             | (i.e., from Babysitters Club to Squid Game).
        
               | morelisp wrote:
               | > targeting niche audiences to going for the pure-
               | blockbuster play (i.e., from Babysitters Club to Squid
               | Game).
               | 
               | Well played.
        
       | yrgulation wrote:
       | Hopefully they spend more resources on better content. I
       | personally find many netflix originals to be template series not
       | worth watching unless you stretch your imagination well beyond
       | sanity and suspend disbelief with the aid of some kind of
       | medication.
       | 
       | Having said that, in my experience their app and streaming
       | quality is just perfect. Unlike hbo's. It would be a shame if
       | these layoffs would be among tech departments because i imagine
       | their engineering is awesome. As a bonus i read somewhere that
       | they use freebsd and that's a huge plus in my books. Shows that
       | they understand tech well beyond the basics.
        
         | MonkeyClub wrote:
         | > with the aid of some kind of medication.
         | 
         | In other words, they found a couple of plot recipes that
         | stoners like, and are cashing in on that.
         | 
         | Which isn't reprehensible or anything in itself, it's just not
         | worth so much of the hype it's getting, but that's hype after
         | all.
         | 
         | But I do dislike the overall cultural dumbing down.
        
         | rawoke083600 wrote:
         | yea, absolutely ! Im tired of teens with super or supernatural
         | powers !
        
         | puranjay wrote:
         | Increasingly found that HBO is the only service worth paying
         | for. They're the only ones capable of putting out high quality,
         | well-produced shows. The rest are all 80% misses, 10% hits, and
         | 10% "I got time and nothing else to do"
        
           | lovich wrote:
           | Apple TV has been putting out quite a bit of art in the
           | decent to great category at the moment imo. I think that
           | might be a function of trying to buy their way into a crowded
           | market so I guess we'll see how long it lasts
        
         | sumy23 wrote:
         | We might simply be at peak content. Better content requires
         | better talent. The pool of talent is finite. Perhaps there
         | aren't enough talented writers and producers to make better
         | content happen.
        
           | bergenty wrote:
        
             | pstuart wrote:
             | I don't think everyone feels the same way you do about
             | women.
        
               | bergenty wrote:
               | I don't think anyone likes to be force fed content that
               | instantly breaks immersion because it doesn't mirror
               | reality at all.
        
               | marssaxman wrote:
               | If that's your perception of reality, perhaps it's good
               | that you're being pushed out of your comfort zone.
        
               | bergenty wrote:
               | I don't think it's a matter of perspective, it's the
               | bending of objective facts.
        
               | lovich wrote:
               | What "woke" content is bending objective facts? The only
               | one I can think of in the past few years was The Wheel of
               | Time keeping the family trait and bloodlines plot
               | line(including one character recognizing another
               | characters heritage based solely on their looks) while
               | not keeping that casting consistent.
               | 
               | The other end is shows like Foundation which might look
               | like a woke cast at first but if you pay close attention
               | you'll realize that the galaxy spanning Empire has the
               | diverse population due to being diverse while all the
               | smaller planetary kingdoms are ethnically homogenous in
               | casting which I thought was a clever attention to detail
               | while satisfying politics.
               | 
               | Netflix is pretty smack in the middle in that they
               | produce content for the woke crowd, but that's just by
               | focusing on including diverse characters. They tend to
               | not get into complicated plots that are defeated by
               | casting.
               | 
               | Unless my take on that is wrong I can't see how
               | minorities' or womens' existence can be bending any
               | objective facts
        
               | arthurcolle wrote:
               | Wheel of Time is on Amazon Prime Video not Netflix
        
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           | hulitu wrote:
           | There is enough "better content". Unfirtunately it is not
           | available on Netflix.
        
           | quartesixte wrote:
           | There are definitely enough talented writers, it's just that
           | the Hollywood system is notorious for gatekeeping good
           | writers, and thats if the writer had the perseverance and
           | material support to even finish a spec script.
           | 
           | It's a pool with a lot of constraints on it, many of which
           | are artificial.
        
             | namelessoracle wrote:
             | Netflix started to disrupt Hollywood, but it looks like
             | Hollywood figured out how to manage Netflix. Rumours abound
             | of conflict between the tech branch and content branchs
             | (which is mostly Hollywood types now) of the company.
        
             | sumy23 wrote:
             | > There are definitely enough talented writers
             | 
             | Based on? There aren't even many good technical writers,
             | which is a lot easier than writing fiction.
        
               | francisofascii wrote:
               | Based on the extremely low number of available writing
               | jobs.
        
           | dekhn wrote:
           | One thing I realized from "Everything Everywhere All At Once"
           | is that although I never heard of the directors before
           | (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniels_(directors)), and
           | never would have predicted that movie and it content, the
           | moment I started watching it, I realized there was another
           | pair of people to put on the List of People I Trust To Make
           | Good Stuff. For example, I'd like them to go back and make
           | Cat's Cradle, or even better, Sirens of Titan.
           | 
           | How many other second-tier directors who could make great
           | films are out there not getting funded?
        
         | Barrin92 wrote:
         | They're already spending countless of billions. Higher quality
         | artistic output isn't primarily a question of money, you really
         | can't buy yourself originality and creativity.
         | 
         | The entire structure and model of the business leads to produce
         | exactly what Netflix makes. Season after season of mediocre TV
         | that keeps people subscribing, using the same formulas over and
         | over for more growth. Just like traditional TV at this point.
         | 
         | Occasionally they'll get a good indie hit but that's about it.
         | It's telling that much of the best content, like Dark or some
         | of the South Korean shows is not coming out of the typical
         | studios.
        
       | acd wrote:
       | Exponential forever growth in startups was false.
        
       | mads wrote:
       | My credit card expired last month and I forgot to update Netflix
       | with the new one. They remind me every time I open Netflix, but I
       | haven't bothered to update it, since there is nothing I really
       | want to watch myself, but mostly because nobody in my family has
       | complained yet.
        
         | jahnu wrote:
         | As soon as Better Call Saul is finished I really don't know
         | what's going to keep me there.
        
         | aluminussoma wrote:
         | Netflix has the ability to automatically update the card number
         | after it expires. It is a service that certain credit card
         | issuers offer.
         | 
         | These days, I would not count on an expiring credit card to
         | automatically cancel services.
        
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