[HN Gopher] Timeline of "foundational" advances in homotopy theory?
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Timeline of "foundational" advances in homotopy theory?
Author : pizza
Score : 18 points
Date : 2022-06-23 06:47 UTC (16 hours ago)
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| orangea wrote:
| Why does HN seem to be so much more interested in homotopy theory
| and related fields than other fields of math? I'm not a
| mathematician, and my understanding is that this "area"
| (including algebraic geometry, algebraic topology, and related
| areas of mathematical logic) represents a very small proportion
| of what career mathematicians actually work on. Does HN just like
| this subject because it is trendy? Because of its reputation for
| being difficult? Because of perceived connections to programming
| (of which I believe are generally exaggerated)?
| bm3719 wrote:
| Homotopy type theory is a type theory (of the Martin-Lof
| variety) that combines higher inductive types and has deep
| connections with the univalence axiom. That's probably the main
| reason. Then there's also cubical type theory, which some would
| claim gives computational meaning to HTT.
| tines wrote:
| Probably because of homotopy type theory, yeah. Why do you
| think the perceived connection is exaggerated?
| orangea wrote:
| One thing that has always bothered me is how people say that
| ideas from category theory can be useful while writing
| Haskell code. It's technically true, but really only the most
| basic ideas -- things which would be in the first chapter of
| a textbook on category theory, and which many might not even
| consider to be part of category theory itself. (For example,
| every type in Haskell is inhabited, which alone somewhat
| limits what you can say about it...)
|
| And then there is also the fact that there is a huge
| difference between the skills and ideas that are useful for
| writing proofs in a theorem prover and those that are useful
| for writing quality software.
|
| Also, anything having to do with homotopy type theory is even
| further removed from programming than regular type theory.
| Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that it is really only
| useful for helping prove theorems in homotopy theory, rather
| than being more generally useful for other kinds of math.
| remexre wrote:
| Univalence seems generally useful for verified software
| engineering, if we could get it in a system with
| regularity.
| orangea wrote:
| Why more useful than non-homotopy type theory?
| klysm wrote:
| I think a lot of concepts from category theory can be
| applied to every day programming in a lot of languages.
| Understanding how things compose helps you write better
| APIs.
| jeffreyrogers wrote:
| Linear algebra stuff makes it to the front page more often than
| other types of math I think, so I don't know that people are
| more interested homotopy. Although homotopy is probably
| overrepresented compared to its usefulness to the average HN
| reader.
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