[HN Gopher] Observations on 6 Years of Journaling
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       Observations on 6 Years of Journaling
        
       Author : memorable
       Score  : 89 points
       Date   : 2022-06-22 05:26 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | djhworld wrote:
       | Seeing this post reminded me I did take a stab at the daily
       | journaling last year, using this tool https://github.com/jrnl-
       | org/jrnl
       | 
       | At some point I stopped which was a shame, but what's funny is
       | all the journal entries are still there and I've just been
       | reading them - lots of wonderful memories and snapshots of stuff
       | going on in my mind at the time.
       | 
       | Just need the motivation to pick it up again!
        
       | em-bee wrote:
       | i started writing a travel diary when i got my first portable
       | notebook 20 years ago. (a sony picturebook, small enough to carry
       | around everywhere easily)
       | 
       | initially i only intended to write when i was away from home, but
       | as my life turned into moving to other countries to live and work
       | there, i realized that i should be writing every day.
       | 
       | the main purpose for me is to write down interesting experiences
       | and memories and less about feelings. the same way i take photos.
       | because there is something i want to remember. that means on most
       | days the entries are short, but when something exceptional
       | happens, then i take it down in as much detail as i can.
        
       | throwaway98797 wrote:
       | the key is to write how you feel not document what happened
       | 
       | as someone who has journaled on and off for 20 years seeing my
       | emotions evolve has been quite valuable
       | 
       | also start today. start right fucking now. it's never too late.
        
         | Reflecticon wrote:
         | Could you elaborate why it's important and how a typical
         | emotional journal entry would look like?
        
       | projektfu wrote:
       | Is anyone here with ADHD able to maintain a journal? My journal
       | has little weeklong attempts every 6-10 months. Any secrets?
        
         | l33tbro wrote:
         | I've not been diagnosed, but I think my problem with
         | 'journalling' is that it is far too rigid and structural.
         | 
         | When I put pen to paper in the morning, I am letting my
         | absolute freak flag fly and engage in something that is much
         | more akin to automatic writing.
         | 
         | While journalling no doubt seems to work well for others, I get
         | so much more out of unleashing a torrent of blab or blah and
         | just seeing what meaningful stuff pops up. It is just a
         | guaranteed way for the fog to lift from my brain, as I quickly
         | get to the heart of what's bothering me.
         | 
         | The only thing is posterity. Once I'm done that paper is pretty
         | much burnt after reading - as nobody needs to see that shit.
         | That means it's a little more difficult to track internal
         | progression or regression.
         | 
         | Meditation and qigong were great with slowing things right down
         | as well - but not as immersive and longer lasting than brain
         | purging.
        
       | mwattsun wrote:
       | Journaling for me is an essential tool for emotional regulation
       | and self-knowledge. This wasn't always the case because I learned
       | in school to write for someone else. If I'm not writing for
       | someone else then who am I writing for? I'm writing for my future
       | self, but who is that? My future self is determined by the
       | thoughts and experiences I am having now, so if I can understand
       | through writing where I am now in the world then I can make
       | better decisions about where I am going. In effect, writing is a
       | way of programming myself. If I am to be captain of my own ship
       | then I need to keep a log to better learn from past experiences.
       | I've found writing is the best way to collaborate with other
       | parts of myself as Huxley says
       | 
       |  _If you correct your mind, the rest of your life will fall into
       | place._
       | 
       | - Lao Tzu
       | 
       |  _It doesn 't need to be imagined, it needs to be written down_
       | 
       | - Philip Glass
       | 
       |  _I like the feeling of words doing as they want to do and as
       | they have to do_
       | 
       | - Gertrude Stein
       | 
       |  _My fate cannot be mastered; it can only be collaborated with
       | and thereby, to some extent, directed. Nor am I the captain of my
       | soul; I am only it 's noisiest passenger_
       | 
       | - Aldous Huxley
       | 
       |  _Good composition is like a suspension bridge; each line adds
       | strength and takes none away... Making lines run into each other
       | is not composition. There must be motive for the connection. Get
       | the art of controlling the observer - that is composition_
       | 
       | - Robert Henri
       | 
       |  _Memory is the major element in cognition, in everything that we
       | call the humanities. If you cannot remember, then you can 't
       | think and you can't imagine, and you can't write, and you can
       | hardly read_
       | 
       | - Harold Bloom
       | 
       |  _The characters in my novel are my own possibilities that were
       | not realized_
       | 
       | - Milan Kundera
        
         | stryan wrote:
         | >If you correct your mind, the rest of your life will fall into
         | place. > - Lao Tzu
         | 
         | FYI, I hate to be that guy, but I don't believe that's a Laozi
         | quote. It doesn't really sound like anything in the Dao De
         | Jing, and google seems to link it to a English translation of a
         | supposed oral tradition of the Huahujing, that doesn't seem to
         | have anything to do with the actual pieces of the Huahujing
         | we've found.
        
         | cadr wrote:
         | Thank you for those! They are fantastic!
        
           | mwattsun wrote:
           | Thanks. Part of my journaling is collecting quotes I come
           | across if they are particularly thought provoking or
           | mysterious. I forgot one of the best. I know it's _the best_
           | because Eastern and Western thought both start here:
           | 
           |  _Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom_
           | 
           | - Aristotle
        
         | 3-cheese-sundae wrote:
         | How do you deal with the privacy implications of noting your
         | deepest thoughts, insecurities, actions, desires, etc. in a
         | presumably single place?
        
           | oskhib wrote:
           | I had that concern when I first started journalling, and
           | invented a secret script (neography). I stuck to it a week or
           | two before I realised nobody really even cares about most of
           | the stuff I write about, so why make the effort. Mind you,
           | I'm young and don't live with a partner, so I don't have to
           | worry about them finding my journal.
        
           | reidjs wrote:
           | Keep it offline or realize that probably nobody cares about
           | reading your journal anyways
        
           | sporksmith wrote:
           | In my journaling I realized the process of writing was
           | valuable, but I rarely referred back to anything. So for
           | personal / stream of consciousness things I either write on
           | paper and put it in the shred pile, or to something like an
           | ephemeral vim buffer.
           | 
           | For when I'm feeling very self conscious I have a script that
           | turns off echoing to the terminal and streams everything I
           | write to the clipboard (in case I decide I want to
           | review/save after all)
        
           | tarmon wrote:
           | It's not perfect but encryption should keep most people
           | honest assuming you practice good opsec.
        
         | galaktus wrote:
         | The emotional regulation part looks promising to me. How does
         | that kind of journaling look like to help with that?
        
           | atoav wrote:
           | In the qorst situations of my life.when I felt alone,
           | devastated, forgotten, hurt I always started to write a
           | letter to someone, either my partner, the person who hurt me,
           | a good friend, whatever. Where I nwed ro explain the whole
           | mess I am in, why I feel the way I feel, what got me to that
           | point how I imagine it will go from here, what I actually
           | want -- this kind of stuff.
           | 
           | I never sent one of those letters. The writing alone made me
           | feel so much better or gave me a resolve to act that the
           | letter would have been outdated by the point I sent it.
        
           | nh23423fefe wrote:
           | not op but, I consider the journaling I do to be
           | complementary to the mediation i do. mediation trains the
           | regulation and journaling gives the vocabulary and memory for
           | the present experience
        
       | sieste wrote:
       | I communicate (read, write, speak, think) in two different
       | languages, and often find it hard to pick a language for
       | journaling. Sometimes I start with one and randomly switch to the
       | other language. Does anyone else have this experience?
        
         | nestorD wrote:
         | I see it as a strength, some thoughts come easier in one
         | language rather than the other so I pick the path of least
         | resistance. It keeps me in the flow.
         | 
         | It might also happen when writing to other people, in which
         | case I will come back to the text and self-translate it once I
         | have put all of my thoughts into words.
        
       | unethical_ban wrote:
       | Thursday, June 23       1326, Hacker News
       | 
       | I journal as well, and have for the past 15 years with varying
       | frequency. I used for force long form entries and coherent prose.
       | Now, I do somewhat what the author does: I just start writing.
       | Timestamp, location, and what I'm doing currently. Then whatever
       | pops to top of mind, then bullet point my past
       | week/month/whatever. It may then turn into a to-do list for work
       | or home. It may be dreams of things I want to do in the next
       | month or two. Writing it all down takes it out of my head for
       | just long enough to let the anxiety go.
       | 
       | It's a great way to remember things, a great way to "rubber-duck"
       | and realize what's important to you. And very occasionally, I
       | look back on them years later and remember things I'd completely
       | forgotten about!                 -L
        
         | Hextinium wrote:
         | I do a similar thing, just listing off the date and time and
         | just kinda writing whatever comes to mind.
         | 
         | If I may ask what does the 1326 come from? It's like a year but
         | I cant recognize the system.
        
           | NortySpock wrote:
           | 24 hour clock, perhaps?
        
             | Hextinium wrote:
             | Oh that actually makes a lot of sense, I guess I just
             | couldn't understand that out of context.
        
               | unethical_ban wrote:
               | Before I blockquoted it, it really looked like a date.
               | 
               | Yes, it's 24 hour time.
        
       | 3qz wrote:
       | > Whether it be meditation or prayer, the act of articulating
       | your thoughts to your deity is a great way to come to divine
       | realisations. In essence, it's rubber-ducking with God.
       | 
       | GOOD point
        
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