[HN Gopher] Fair Game: data scraping is an underacknowledged pri...
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       Fair Game: data scraping is an underacknowledged privacy concern
        
       Author : cratermoon
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2022-06-21 16:29 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | cratermoon wrote:
       | From the story: "Scraping is related to but distinct from "web
       | crawling," which Google and Archive.org, for example, use to
       | gather the contents of web pages ...
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       | Implicit in the basic idea of scraping is that data is being put
       | into a different form and then turned to different uses from the
       | ones that user or a site's administrator intends."
       | 
       | I don't know if the author believes Google's efforts don't
       | include scraping by that definition, or if he just didn't further
       | mention Google for some reason.
        
         | spacemanmatt wrote:
         | It's almost like the SCOTUS didn't just rule on this, as far as
         | some people seem to be aware.
        
         | danuker wrote:
         | If I search for a random fact, Google will show me data from a
         | random unfortunate website, saving me from a click.
         | 
         | That is how Google provably scrapes sites in addition to
         | crawling them.
        
       | ornxka wrote:
       | Different resource usage patterns aside, why do people think that
       | robots are somehow less "legitimate" consumers of data than their
       | human operators? Do the authors of this article think that humans
       | only use data for purposes sanctioned by its producers?
       | 
       | I think the world would be a much better place if we stopped
       | treating programmatic access to interfaces differently than human
       | access to it. Anybody can learn to code.
        
         | car_analogy wrote:
         | > Do the authors of this article think that humans only use
         | data for purposes sanctioned by its producers?
         | 
         | That's the unfortunate direction copyright law is moving in. In
         | the EU, "data mining" is considered a right separate from mere
         | access, and the carve-outs for allowing it without permission
         | from the data owner are very limited:
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         | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/text-and-data-mining-e...
        
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