[HN Gopher] Ask HN: What do technical co-founders look for and a...
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       Ask HN: What do technical co-founders look for and avoid when
       joining a startup?
        
       Hello,  Curious what are top 3 things technical co-founders care
       about when joining a startup?  Also equally import, what are the
       top 3 things they avoid?  Thanks!
        
       Author : aaronaltamura
       Score  : 10 points
       Date   : 2022-06-19 19:53 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
       | malux85 wrote:
       | The business dev guy who spits out an imaginary list of features
       | (not backed with empirical data in any way) and then just sits
       | there while I work hard building and building and building, and
       | them claiming nothing or very little can be done until the
       | product is finished.
       | 
       | In reality good business guys are rare (like good programmers),
       | and the good ones can get money from investors and customers with
       | the product in it's current, incomplete state (hint: it's always
       | incomplete, the completed, idealised version will never exist)
       | 
       | Poor business devs sit around waiting for stuff to be built,
       | interview 1 or 2 customers, and then say yes to all the customer
       | requests (even illogical, ill-thought out ones) and then sit
       | around more until the new features are implemented.
       | 
       | This can be solved with hard goals.
       | 
       | Technical founder has hard time goals of finishing X,Y,Z by this
       | date, and business dev founder has hard goals of revenue A,B,C by
       | these dates.
       | 
       | If the business dev founder is unable to reach the goals then
       | 100% of ownership of the codebase that I just wrote (myself) is
       | mine, and I'll go find another business dev who can sell it.
       | 
       | That way I'm happy to take all the risk by investing a bunch of
       | my own time and resources into building it up front, and then if
       | it doesn't work out, I can find another way of monetizing that
       | effort.
       | 
       | This has allowed me to kick out some useless business dev's who
       | are all talk, and get in the guys who are going to make it
       | happen. This strategy changed my life for the better a lot.
        
         | idealmedtech wrote:
         | That's a really neat strategy for ownership! Did you write the
         | contract that you use? Any interest in sharing it?
        
           | withinboredom wrote:
           | I've seen this a couple of times.
           | 
           | Basically the "legal" way is to just "buy them out" as the
           | company isn't worth all that much and you've done most (all)
           | the work. If the partner is someone decent, you'll arrive at
           | a number that makes sense for both of you.
           | 
           | The other way is a lot more spicy: just do it and one day
           | they will sue you. Maybe.
        
       | fxtentacle wrote:
       | 1. Do you know who to sell to?
       | 
       | 2. Do you know how to reach them in a cost-effective way?
       | 
       | 3. Did you spend enough time talking to customers to know what
       | they want / need?
       | 
       | Avoid:
       | 
       | People who blame issues on others. People who are bad with money
       | planning. Companies who are too old to grant co-founder equity.
        
       | eyphka wrote:
       | If joining a startup with a business partner, have they already
       | proven market? (Making a website and having demand, e.g.
       | flexport)
        
       | goncaloo wrote:
       | - Have you proven the market? (how many people have you talked
       | with? is the pain point big enough that they are willing to pay?
       | how many in the waiting list?)
       | 
       | - Do you have a right to play? (do you have experience in the
       | field that not many people do, etc)
       | 
       | - Are you passionate about the _problem_?
       | 
       | If you check all 3 then you're in a good position I would say.
        
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