[HN Gopher] Photos of chickens, taken by chickens
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Photos of chickens, taken by chickens
Author : kapsteur
Score : 192 points
Date : 2022-06-13 19:36 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| switchstance wrote:
| Did the chickens sign releases authorizing the use of their
| photos?
| dylan604 wrote:
| If the chickens are going to be in public, there is no
| expectation of privacy. I'd agree if the chickens were in their
| coop, and they were shooting a long lens through the windows we
| might be violating some privacy. However, running about in
| public like this is totally fine without releases
| oneeyedpigeon wrote:
| You're thinking about this [1], aren't you?
|
| [1]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...
| Havoc wrote:
| Those are some healthy looking chickens
| neoberg wrote:
| If the author reads this: How does the downloading images from SD
| card part work?
| jacobbijani wrote:
| gphoto2, specifically the --capture-image-and-download command
|
| http://www.gphoto.org/doc/manual/ref-gphoto2-cli.html
| jahlove wrote:
| > Are these chicken selfies?
|
| > Yes. The chickens are using an input device (the motion sensor)
| to invoke a computer function (the capture method on the Pi),
| which invokes a series of events that results in the photo being
| taken, uploaded, and shared.
|
| > This is identical to a human using an input device (tapping a
| button) to invoke a computer function (the post method on
| Instagram), which invokes a series of events that results in the
| photo being taken, uploaded, and shared.
|
| Is it really "identical" though? A human knows they're taking the
| selfie and sees the result. The chickens do not.
| alar44 wrote:
| Correct. He created a trail cam with a Canon 70D.
|
| I'm not sure why this is supposed to be interesting.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Because we're all boring nerds and seeing something other
| than code all day amuses us. Happy to hear you're okay though
| Hellbanevil wrote:
| I found the $20 each egg interesting. Plus you need to pick
| it up.
|
| Why would someone pay that much for an egg?
| cosarara wrote:
| By that logic, I am taking a selfie every time I speed in front
| of a speed camera, or I drive in front of an average speed zone
| camera.
| deebosong wrote:
| Make a novelty website dedicated to speed zone selfies.
| actually_a_dog wrote:
| Some of those chickens are better photographers than some
| humans I know.
| kokanee wrote:
| I'm assuming the whole thing is a joke, but if we want to play
| along with the pedantry, I would object on similar grounds:
|
| A motion sensor is not an "input device," it is a sensory
| monitor with thresholds and triggers controlled by the
| architect of the system, not the thing being monitored. This is
| evidenced by the fact that several of the photos were triggered
| by something other than the chickens, such as a lawn mower.
|
| If I create a system that drops paint on a canvas when the
| temperature reaches 80 degrees F, it would be nonsense to
| assert that the sun had painted a picture. I painted a picture,
| and the sun was one of the tools I used in place of a brush.
| alx__ wrote:
| I guess it's more of a philosophical query. Who took the photo,
| the chicken or the human ;)
| dylan604 wrote:
| But which came first, and does this tell us why it crossed
| the road?
| fsckboy wrote:
| > _I guess it 's more of a philosophical query. Who took the
| photo, the chicken or the human ;)_
|
| and do I take the picture when I push the button on my camera
| or do we really take the pictures when we start looking at
| them?
| hourago wrote:
| And a legal one. If it's the human then the picture has
| copyright, if it's the chicken then this are copyright free
| pictures.
|
| Edit. Link to relevant Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wi
| ki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...
| cronix wrote:
| It's more akin to butt dialing.
| aleksiy123 wrote:
| More like a chicken speed/red light cam.
| tomjakubowski wrote:
| There's no evidence the chickens know they're taking a selfie,
| but that shouldn't stop you from imagining for fun that they
| might. After all, absence of evidence is not evidence of
| absence: perhaps chickens are not so vain as we are, and their
| reaction when taking the picture is cool nonchalance.
| jrwoodruff wrote:
| The _about_ page seems pretty tongue-in-cheek. Later they talk
| about the work ethic of the chickens, and offer eggs for $20
| /ea.
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| Adraghast wrote:
| I take selfies every time I pass by a CCTV camera apparently.
| LesZedCB wrote:
| exactly, because "take" is the operative word, being a
| positive action done by a subject.
| dylan604 wrote:
| better to take a selfie than having your image taken.
| otherwise, you need liam neeson and his special skills or
| you'll never get your image back
| pelagicAustral wrote:
| Yeah, probably not the same at all.
|
| When I was kid I used to work summers on a family-owned free-
| range chicken farm. I remember being fascinated by the behavior
| of chickens. I also spent a lot of time figuring out if they
| could remember me, and some did remembered and where more keen
| on approaching, they were totally conditioned by the fact that
| I used to give them some different kind of grain food. They
| even made the trip to the house about 30 meters away, just
| these few ones. Of course they probably remembered the food but
| I was still happy with my accomplishments in the field of
| human/chicken colaboration.
| dangle1 wrote:
| After my wife convinced me to get chickens, I went from being
| ignorant and dismissive of chickens to loving having them in
| our backyard. It's impressive how distinctive their
| personalities are given the approx. 50 neurons they're
| working with in life.
|
| It's like having toddler dinosaurs bumbling around and having
| little adventures for your entertainment.
| b3morales wrote:
| Befriending one of the more intelligent birds (jays, or
| crows) is also very entertaining, though they are still
| wild of course.
| SoftTalker wrote:
| Just don't betray their friendship, as they will not
| forget it.
| bstpierre wrote:
| And they will tell their friends and children too,
| apparently
| memling wrote:
| Related: Am I Liable for Murder if my Murder Attempts to
| Commit Murder[1]
|
| [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/bestoflegaladvice/comments/k
| i9gb1/i...
| svachalek wrote:
| Yes, they do have very clear personalities. We had one who
| was very curious about people, just very interested in
| following you and seeing what you do. It's probably food
| related motivation, but more than simply seeking a handout
| as most of them do. You could really see the gears turning
| in there.
| dangle1 wrote:
| And they love it when you do digging projects and come
| over next to you to see if there's anything good to eat.
| frosted-flakes wrote:
| This humorous children's short story comes to mind:
| _Squabbling in the Vegatable Patch_ (it was an audiobook
| cassette tape). Contains lots of chicken antics revolving
| around exactly that.
|
| https://youtube.com/watch?v=4YCQY4GwlBM&list=PLU8JDCV_35G
| GWW...
|
| I still have the original cassette tape from when I was a
| child and still occasionally play it in my car radio (the
| only tape player I own).
| ekianjo wrote:
| you dont need bazillions of neurons to showcase complex
| behavior. also in humans a large part of our brain is to
| help us move on 2 legs and keep us balanced.
| mosseater wrote:
| I know you are probably kidding about the 50 neurons, but
| Red Junglefowl (what chickens are derived from) are working
| with 221 million neurons. Which isn't that much in the
| grand scheme of things, but more than double the amount
| compared to a quail and about the same as a parrotlet or a
| brown rat.
| dylan604 wrote:
| >50 neurons they're working with in life.
|
| so approximtely 10x more than me on mondays before caffeine
| ashes-of-sol wrote:
| Yeah, you wouldn't put out a trail camera and say "look at the
| selfie this deer took!". I'm willing to grant the author a
| little slack though considering this seems pretty tongue in
| cheek
| SomeBoolshit wrote:
| Accidental selfies, but still technically selfies.
| netule wrote:
| Is a traffic camera photo a selfie?
| sethbannon wrote:
| This somehow makes me feel nostalgic for when the internet was
| more irreverent.
| braingenious wrote:
| This was cool until I read about NFTs in the about section. What
| a bummer of a way to take a cool project and make it shitty.
| zwieback wrote:
| I had chickens and also had deer constantly destroying anything I
| was trying to grow, I hate those bastards with a passion.
|
| I was always hoping the chickens would chase the deer but they
| just ignored them.
| kerblang wrote:
| Not a chicken, but this was my favorite
|
| https://chicken.photos/20220605091358
| vhiremath4 wrote:
| So cute haha
| dredmorbius wrote:
| One^WSeveral of these chickens are not like the others.
| h2odragon wrote:
| lost me at "buy NFT"
| [deleted]
| pelagicAustral wrote:
| Yeah, I know. 24 bucks as well. I can probably buy a few live
| chickens myself with that kind of scratch.
| dubswithus wrote:
| I'd actually pay money to not have chickens live near me so I
| don't have to hear them.
| bombcar wrote:
| Chickens (hens) are relatively quiet, it's the roosters
| that need regulatin'.
| tbyehl wrote:
| My most vocal hens make quite a bit more racket than my
| pair of roos.
| robin_reala wrote:
| Chickens are fine ("pok pok pok"), it's cockerels that you
| definitely don't want near you.
| mauvehaus wrote:
| Learn from our mistake and maybe don't put the coop on
| the same side of your house as your bedroom windows even
| if you only have hens.
|
| They make plenty of noise if you're a light sleeper and
| they want to be let out for the day.
| saalweachter wrote:
| Chicks retail at Tractor Supply for $4 for most breeds, with
| 6 chick minimums (at least where I'm at). That yields a
| minimum order of 6 chicks for $24.
| tbyehl wrote:
| A hen raised to laying age is worth more like $20-$50.
| mauvehaus wrote:
| The major costs of getting chickens are a coop, and if
| you're in a place with bears, an electric fence to keep the
| bears from destroying your coop and eating the chickens
| contained therein.
|
| You might get lucky for a couple of years (we did), but now
| we have two fewer chickens and a cock-a-doodle-gulag around
| our coop.
|
| If you don't already own a hatchet, you may as well get one
| up front. At some point you're bound to have to put one out
| of its misery. You may as well not make it wait while you
| make a trip to the hardware store.
|
| The principle of "buy once, cry once" definitely applies to
| chicken feeders and waterers. The feeders that hold around
| 30 pounds of feed are vastly superior to the smaller ones
| and are worth the investment. The waterers that hold a 5 of
| gallons and fill via a screw top are similarly superior.
|
| Also: chickens shit _everywhere_. Forget about carefree
| gambols through your yard once you have chickens.
| bicx wrote:
| Someone actually paid for it though, so maybe chicken.photos
| is on to something.
| slickdork wrote:
| Maybe it was the chickens who bought it.
| dangle1 wrote:
| Or even before that, at eggs "...are available for $20 each."
| lofatdairy wrote:
| Considering it's pick-up only without an address, I'm
| inclined towards believing that that's dry humor.
| Angostura wrote:
| And it probably includes a digital download of the egg.
| babypuncher wrote:
| Yeah, the NFT nonsense really sours what is an otherwise
| amusing project. It's not enough to make something cool, we
| have to try an monetize it through an obvious ponzi scheme.
| mitchdoogle wrote:
| I don't get why people get so sour about NFTs. If you don't
| like them, then don't participate - just like the thousands
| of other things people do for fun or profit that you don't
| participate in. This example is just a text link on a few
| images - it's not even in your face or very noticeable, yet
| several comments here have already voiced their aversion
| babypuncher wrote:
| Nothing happens in a vacuum. Society as a whole can be made
| to suffer from the after effects of "optional" activities.
| elliotpage wrote:
| I'm afraid I cannot "Not participate" in the ecological
| destruction they cause.
| cpach wrote:
| I really don't like NFTs, but I think it was a nice idea and
| website though. Would never buy the NFT, I could see myself
| buying a physical print though.
| almost wrote:
| Yeah it does take the shine off it doesn't it?
| micromacrofoot wrote:
| Great use of an old DSLR camera, the quality elevates this to
| wonderful.
| ch4s3 wrote:
| I went to the about page and was not disappointed. Stompers is a
| great name for a rooster.
| tppiotrowski wrote:
| A good reminder that one of the basic tenets of good wildlife
| photography is to photograph at eye level. So if you want to take
| a picture of your cat or dog, squat down to their level instead
| of pointing the camera downwards.
| jjice wrote:
| Why is that?
| tppiotrowski wrote:
| I don't know the theory but I find these chicken photos more
| aesthetic than photos of chickens taken from above. It might
| have something to do with looking your subject in the eye...
| KineticLensman wrote:
| A good general principle in almost any photography is that if
| you want pictures that are different from everyone else's,
| just get down a bit. Most people take shots at their eye
| level and don't even think to try a different angle
| astrange wrote:
| Or up. The way I think of it is people looking at your
| photo shouldn't know how tall you are.
| dredmorbius wrote:
| _Unusual_ points of view.
|
| High, low, inside a pipe, from a tree, under water, where
| people don't usually go / aren't allowed / can't access,
| etc.
|
| Keep in mind that the unusual can become commonplace if
| overused. Selfie sticks were initially a novel PoV. They
| became cliche in about a week.
| kQq9oHeAz6wLLS wrote:
| If your pictures aren't interesting enough, you're not
| close enough
| wsgeorge wrote:
| From my experience, pictures taken at the normal human
| viewing height look uninteresting because they're taken at an
| angle we're most familiar with, which doesn't have much
| novelty.
|
| Photos taken at unfamiliar angles will present their objects
| in ways we're not used to seeing. Which makes them less
| familiar and more stimulating. Which is more interesting.
| 0daystock wrote:
| Chickens are beautiful creatures worthy of at the least the
| respect we give to household pets. The unimaginable horror we put
| billions of them through on an ongoing basis, while dissonantly
| admiring their charm and brilliance, is a sobering realization.
| LesZedCB wrote:
| indeed, the line between "pet" and "food" is disturbing in both
| where it's drawn, and it's fundamental relativism.
| Lio wrote:
| Dear, oh dear. Some of these chickens look like, er, deer.
|
| Nice work.
| xisthesqrtof9 wrote:
| $20 for an egg? That's just absurd.
| steve_adams_86 wrote:
| These chickens are famous, sir.
| [deleted]
| karaterobot wrote:
| I think when you say the photos are taken by chickens, I was
| imagining a chicken wearing a GoPro or something. These are
| motion-activated pictures from a stationary camera. They're still
| very cool though.
| smm11 wrote:
| No possible way chickens literally aren't T-Rex.
| calibas wrote:
| Some interesting legality here, if these photos are really "taken
| by chickens" then they can't be copyrighted:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...
|
| However, if this counts as being "taken by chickens" then it also
| implies that when a burglar triggers a motion-activated camera,
| the burglar owns the rights to the image.
| WaitWaitWha wrote:
| >The chickens are using an input device (the motion sensor) to
| invoke a computer function [...]
|
| No, per the description and your legal context, the chickens
| are not taking the pictures.
| BarryMilo wrote:
| You also don't own the copyright for pictures randomly
| generated by computers, presumably this applies to chicken
| randomization as well.
| SV_BubbleTime wrote:
| When I've rented cameras for photo shoots, I'm pretty sure I
| own the photos and not the rental company, so this checks out.
|
| Maybe the BUY NFT link on every photo goes to accounts the
| chickens own. Nothing about NFTs makes any less sense than
| this, so why not?
| mdturnerphys wrote:
| There was a talk on this back in 2007:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk
| akeck wrote:
| NFTs, $20 eggs, etc. aside, this made my day.
| swighton wrote:
| I feel like calling these photos "taken by a chicken" is fairly
| misleading. The photos are taken automatically when a chicken
| wanders in front of a motion detector.
|
| To test the claim with a similar example, let's say I run a red
| light which triggers a red light cam to take a picture of me and
| my car. I don't think I can claim that I took that photo, or that
| it is a selfie.
| bombcar wrote:
| The "gorilla selfie" case provides the best ruling we have in
| the area at this time.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...
| ruined wrote:
| no, let's support this line of thought. argue in court that the
| state has violated both the 4th amendment and copyright on your
| red light selfie. this could be incredible. next up,
| surveillance images and news media of political demonstrations
| [deleted]
| jaboutboul wrote:
| Noah Kalina at it again.
| TamDenholm wrote:
| "The purpose of a rooster is to yell at the top of its lungs all
| day and prevent the humans from sleeping past sunrise."
|
| Excellent about page.
| bryanrasmussen wrote:
| It's nice to see that Gary Larson is still going strong, I think
| should make a cow tools site next
| https://twitter.com/Bondcliff2008/status/1530207754358431744
| rexreed wrote:
| Aren't these just trail cam pictures?
| markozivanovic wrote:
| >Do the chickens lay eggs? >>Yes. They are the best fresh eggs
| you've ever tasted. They are available for $20 each. Pick up
| only.
|
| Wow, some expensive eggs! Is it because these chickens are now
| celebrities? :)
|
| Kidding aside, I just bought a box of 10 eggs today for 4 euros
| (~4,15USD) and thought that was a bit expensive. Also from free-
| range chicken.
|
| I can find "egg prices around the world", but I can't find a
| single site where I can filter results by the size of eggs and
| type of chickens. Here's an idea for a really unneeded SaaS!
| alx__ wrote:
| I'd guess they're purposely inflated to cut down on people
| asking to buy them
| SV_BubbleTime wrote:
| Colloquially called the "Fuck off price".
|
| _"We don't want to do it, but if you are really going to pay
| this, we'll make it happen."_
|
| I was quoting some wood deck and lawn work this spring. I had
| four people come out to quote, and two gave me fuck off
| prices about 3-4x what I eventually paid.
|
| EDIT: for reference on good eggs, I've found duck eggs to be
| superior to chicken eggs.
| dredmorbius wrote:
| _I've found duck eggs to be superior to chicken eggs._
|
| Especially if you're interested in hatching ducklings.
| iamtheworstdev wrote:
| i suspect it's sarcasm. that's not the price of eggs anywhere
| in the USA.
| reaperducer wrote:
| _Wow, some expensive eggs!_
|
| Maybe it's a typo. Perhaps he meant $20/dozen.
|
| Which is still expensive. I get my eggs from a farmer 30 miles
| out of town, and she only charges $8/dozen, and that includes
| delivering it to my doorman. But I only order when she's
| recently slaughtered another farm animal, to make it worth the
| trip for her.
| dylan604 wrote:
| I don't think you're looking high enough. Try looking over
| your head as that's where this bit of humor sailed ;P
| colechristensen wrote:
| The people I've known who raise chickens quickly reach the
| level of "please take these eggs, please!"
| euroderf wrote:
| Fresh chicken eggs are da bomb. The egg whites cohere and do
| not spread out in a puddle. You might be buying organic eggs
| (or free range, or wot-evs) but if the whites are runny and
| spread out in the pan, the eggs are NOT fresh.
| layer8 wrote:
| According to that criterion the eggs I buy are apparently
| fresh, though I usually wish the whites were more runny when
| I use them.
| silisili wrote:
| One thing that always stood out to me about fresh/real
| chicken eggs I got from my father was the color of the yolk.
| Much, much darker than store bought, though I don't know what
| even plays a role determining that.
|
| Hoping to get a coop up later this year and start
| experimenting!
| SoftTalker wrote:
| The color of the yolk depends on what the chickens eat; it
| doesn't really indicate anything about the nutritional
| content of the eggs. Supermarket "organic" eggs that have a
| dark yellow yolk might just mean that their chickens' diet
| included pigments that caused that. A true free-range
| chicken that had a more wild diet including insects and
| seeds other than wheat or corn will also tend to have eggs
| with a darker yolk.
| Angostura wrote:
| Oddly enough you don't want your eggs too fresh. I remember
| my grandmother saying that you can to keep them for a
| couple of days before eating - something about the texture
| of the white
| Enginerrrd wrote:
| I think that's only for making hardboiled eggs.
|
| The whites don't separate from the shell well if they're
| too fresh
| Enginerrrd wrote:
| >...though I don't know what even plays a role determining
| that.
|
| Age is definitely one big factor. The longer they sit the
| lighter they get. But I suspect diet also plays a big role,
| and to a lesser extent, lifestyle/overall health
| a1pulley wrote:
| Yolk color is a function of xanthophyll in the diet.
| Backyard chickens tend to get food scraps that contain more
| xanthophyll than there is in commercial feed, which is why
| backyard eggs yolks tend to be more orange. If you want
| more orange in your yolks, you can feed your chickens stuff
| like marigolds or cooked carrots.
| wiredfool wrote:
| Or you toss in beet peel scraps.
| robga wrote:
| Chicken feed.
| pavel_lishin wrote:
| Another fun piece of chicken-centric art is Igorrr's Chicken
| Sonata: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFxDOV6IwHk
| Kudos wrote:
| When my postman activates my doorbell camera by approaching the
| door, is he taking a selfie?
|
| This is somewhat charming surveillance footage at best.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Did the imaging start when the mailman pushed the button?
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