[HN Gopher] Jimmy Carter Is Still Trying to Protect Alaskan Wild...
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Jimmy Carter Is Still Trying to Protect Alaskan Wilderness
Author : 1vuio0pswjnm7
Score : 45 points
Date : 2022-06-12 20:48 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| kinnth wrote:
| Yes the resident logic is a bait and switch for further
| developments. Wilderness should stay wild. Leave it as is and do
| nothing. It's amazing how many powerful politicians and obviously
| lobbied individuals keep trying to change that.
| CA0DA wrote:
| For those simply upvoting without reading the article, this case
| is more nuanced than the headline may sound:
|
| > Residents in the community of King Cove want to exchange land
| to build a gravel road through the refuge to provide access to an
| all-weather airport in nearby Cold Bay for medical transports.
| notch656a wrote:
| A well connected, wealthy person with no real worries about
| their own access to medical professionals and no real roots in
| Alaska feigning to act for the good of nature but in the
| process acting against the interest of these communities? Say
| it aint so.
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| swayvil wrote:
| We upvote what we like, downvote what we don't like. Such dog
| damn simple creatures we are.
| mod wrote:
| I personally don't consider that nuanced.
|
| I live five miles from pavement, an hour from a hospital, so I
| understand these concerns.
|
| I would be absolutely disgusted if they paved through my local
| national forest for some quicker access to... Anything.
| Literally anything.
|
| Those people all have the choice to leave. Living in remote
| places comes with many, many tradeoffs and inconveniences.
| There's no safety in the wilderness.
|
| Keep the wild places wild. There's so little left.
| phkahler wrote:
| It's not about the residents of King Cove. BTW they've either
| been without that road for 40 years, or moved there knowing the
| situation.
|
| It's about power and control if you go by this part:
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| "The split panel decision would allow the secretary, without
| any public process or without compliance with any other laws,
| to engage in a backroom land exchange,"
| hanniabu wrote:
| That's a pretty fucked up clause
| notch656a wrote:
| 45% of households in King Cove have children who had no
| choice in whether the road is there or not 40 years ago. It's
| hard to just blame them that "they knew the roads weren't
| there" when they were born thus they're not allowed roads to
| medical care the way I (and probably you) are.
| mod wrote:
| I would sooner take the children away or force the
| residents to move than pave a road through the Alaskan
| wilderness.
|
| I wouldn't do those things either, though. People get to
| choose where and how to raise their children. Children
| don't get a say so in virtually anything that affects them.
|
| "Think of the children" is not a good argument.
|
| Also the whole population is like 1200 people. We're
| talking about a relative handful of kids. Like one very
| small elementary school (edit: Google search says there's
| 87 kids in PK-12th grade. Combined.)
| ivanhoe wrote:
| > they've either been without that road for 40 years, or
| moved there knowing the situation.
|
| It's a really weird argument, you're basically saying that
| people shouldn't be allowed to upgrade their infrastructure
| ever? Imagine saying that for some poor country: "Oh, well,
| they either had no running water before, or they knew the
| situation before moving there, so screw them, they can just
| continue walking 5 miles every day to bring water from the
| spring".
|
| Also they've been without that road a lot longer than 40
| years, King Cove exists since at least 1930s. Population is
| dropping so I doubt many people have been moving there, most
| of people live there their whole life....and if they get sick
| or injured and planes can't land, they're screwed without
| that road.
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