[HN Gopher] Remove YC "[company] is hiring" ads on HN
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Remove YC "[company] is hiring" ads on HN
Author : esrh
Score : 55 points
Date : 2022-06-02 16:59 UTC (6 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
| yamrzou wrote:
| Look, you can make and use whatever extension you like. But,
| posting something like this here, is a lack of respect for this
| website and its community. Because the visibility that these
| posts get are the least we can offer to this forum for what it
| gives us. And you can simply hide them.
| threatofrain wrote:
| I'm not sure how meaningful it is to ask an author who
| proclaims to not use HN to comport their attitude or behavior
| to your understanding of respecting HN. But I see this as well
| within the bounds of HN community spirit -- IMO the heart of
| hacking was originally more about defying authority or
| boundaries than entrepreneurial or industry interest.
| schmookeeg wrote:
| This resonates with me. I appreciate HN enough to at least
| consider the YC offerings when they appear.
|
| ...And one of my worst/most insulting interview experiences was
| with a YC company.
|
| Tis the reason for the season and all that. :)
| 0des wrote:
| I am curious if none of you use an ad blocker, ever.
| bobobob420 wrote:
| Thank you for making this. One of the worst parts about hacker
| news
| dmead wrote:
| How about a firefox version?
| 0des wrote:
| On a sidenote: why can't we comment on these? I have a feeling I
| know why, but I need to hear someone with a YC shirt on say it.
| version_five wrote:
| I'm not the person you're looking for, but I don't think the
| reason is anything nefarious. It's just that the posts have a
| single point, which is to tell you the company is hiring. If
| you let people comment, it inevitable devolves into some
| nitpicking or criticism of the company (or more rarely some
| kind of shilling) which frustrates the purpose of the post.
|
| If there is a news story, a "my experience at company X"
| blogpost, any kind of relevant point to be made about that
| company, someone could submit that as a story.
|
| Letting people comment on job ads would just turn them into
| lightning rods for whatever bad things people want to say, and
| then what would be the point?
|
| I'm sure I have seen a moderator reply in one of the who is
| hiring threads saying something similar that allowing comments
| just attracts criticism and derails the threads
| oh_sigh wrote:
| I think at the very least comments should be allowed on those
| posts, even if only by high karma accounts to lessen the number
| of trolls.
| 0des wrote:
| That's not a great idea, some of the folks here with the most
| karma are just familiar names who talk the most like myself,
| they don't always have great opinions.
| oh_sigh wrote:
| I agree, I'm probably in the same boat with 5000+ karma but
| for the most part worthless comments and oftentimes getting
| yelled at by dang, but some filtering would be better than
| none at all. My guess is that companies don't want people to
| comment on their posts because of fear of the conversation
| turning extremely negative, since probably most people to
| comment would be people who have a bone to pick for some
| reason. I notice that reddit also doesn't allow commenting on
| their ads, even though the ads present themselves for the
| most part as just another post(just like hn)
| wheybags wrote:
| I'm honestly fine with them. These posts are the reason this site
| gets to exist without needing some other more nefarious
| monetisation. Ads can be a lot worse...
| AustinDev wrote:
| Can we get comments enabled on them? I'd be interested to see
| what other people have to say about the companies. I think it'd
| be an interesting compromise. They don't really bother me
| either way.
| threatofrain wrote:
| Does anyone have a knowledgeable story for what YC sees HN as?
| Without knowing that, it's difficult to say why this site gets
| to exist.
| dang wrote:
| I wrote about it here (ignore the first half of the post):
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23285793
|
| Similar other past comments: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRang
| e=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
| tmp_anon_22 wrote:
| It makes sense to me that most YC Big Wigs would be
| indifferent towards HN, but will quickly come down on it if
| their preferred companies are getting lambasted by comments
| on their own website.
|
| Probably best to not shake the pot.
| ignoramous wrote:
| I won't block 'em, but tbh, some of the titles are real cringe,
| which is a good indicator for who to avoid, I guess.
| bombcar wrote:
| I like the ones who continue to appear for ages - I wonder if
| BuildZoom will ever get that engineer!
| Risse wrote:
| Or Flexport
| cvhashim wrote:
| Been actually thinking about joining Flexport.
| jupp0r wrote:
| Flexport looks super interesting, I almost reached out to
| them at some point.
| throwaway1777 wrote:
| Maybe they are hiring multiple engineers
| DoctorOW wrote:
| I don't think so
| andrew_ wrote:
| hah. put OneSignal in that batch as well.
| dang wrote:
| It's on my list to do more about the bad titles. We do fix them
| when we see them. We also tell the startups not to do that:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/jobguide.html.
|
| If an irritating one shows up, you (or anyone) are welcome to
| give us a heads-up at hn@ycombinator.com.
| n42 wrote:
| I am thoroughly entertained by how this elicited an emotional
| reaction from me. I guess I feel loyal to the site.
|
| Posting this here embodies the spirit of Hacker News in a weirdly
| layered meta commentary.
|
| I'm probably thinking too hard about it but I enjoyed this
| seydor wrote:
| That s quite the overreaction
| d23 wrote:
| Seriously. I feel like I've seen... three of these. They're
| about as unintrusive as it gets.
| version_five wrote:
| The hiring posts don't bother me at all.
|
| But I certainly have personal hangups about silly things that
| bother me to the point of distraction, even in small
| quantities. For example if an article has an animated gif in
| it, I literally can't read it once I've seen it. So I can
| understand why some people might get put off by something
| seemingly minor. And making a blocker is a good solution,
| even if very niche.
| dang wrote:
| Users flagged this.
|
| I've removed the flags now, in keeping with the principle that we
| moderate HN less, not more, when YC is the story:
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
| 0des wrote:
| A helpful middleground is to allow us to comment on these
| threads.
|
| Some of these companies are undesirable for various reasons and
| for the community to be precluded from discussing their
| experiences, but only when its a YC company, is disingenuous,
| and renders the parent comment questionable. We talk about all
| manner of companies here. Why is a YC company immune from
| discourse?
|
| Fairness is when every post is treated the same.
| pvg wrote:
| You can write stuff about these companies anywhere on HN, you
| can post stuff about these companies to HN, etc.
| 0des wrote:
| > You can write stuff about these companies anywhere on HN
|
| False, you cannot comment on a YC hiring post.
|
| Either all posts are treated the same, or they're not. All
| we are discussing here is the ability to comment, I'm not
| saying I need a filter toggle, though I'd happily use one.
| pvg wrote:
| These are job ads, you can't go off on tangents in
| people's job ads on Who's Hiring threads either. All
| posts are not treated the same and this is one of the
| biggest not-same type of post on HN. Topicality is pretty
| important to HN threads. There's really no shortage of
| ways to be both on topic and say things about more or
| less any company, YC or not, on HN.
| 0des wrote:
| pvg wrote:
| You reply doesn't really engage with my argument at all,
| you pick a single word and head right for bombast and
| innuendo. If that's the sort of thing you want to write
| on job ads, it's a solid point against the idea.
| CedarMills wrote:
| I almost wish they were in italics or something.
| 0des wrote:
| Or a different color
| pvg wrote:
| You can also just hit 'hide' on any post which has the benefit of
| also give you a new front page story.
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