[HN Gopher] Show HN: Todool, a full blown environment for managi...
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Show HN: Todool, a full blown environment for managing large trees
of task lists
Currently an alpha is available in their Discord server. I'm not
the creator, if you have any questions about the program feel free
to join the Discord server.
Author : monkeyguy37
Score : 65 points
Date : 2022-05-31 07:41 UTC (15 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (todool.handmade.network)
(TXT) w3m dump (todool.handmade.network)
| tinytoon wrote:
| Looks like Taskpaper or FoldingText
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| https://www.taskpaper.com https://www.foldingtext.com
| djmips wrote:
| I wanted to try but those are both Mac specific.
| walski wrote:
| Recent macOS outliner alternative: Bike
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31409077 I've played around
| with it and found it pleasant to use
| marban wrote:
| For someone who needs to add visuals and deals with more messy
| content in general, Bear.app is still the best native Mac/iOS
| solution.
| Brajeshwar wrote:
| You either do the TODOs or live in it long enough to become one
| with the TODOs.
|
| I would like to treat the tools as tools (a means) and not a
| destination (your actual work). This applies to Calendar, Email
| clients, TODO apps.
| cseleborg wrote:
| Oh, dear. Managing deep trees of TODOs is... not a good way of
| managing TODOs.
|
| I find long TODO lists/trees stressful and cumbersome. I used to
| maintain quite a few of those, but eventually found it
| discouraging. There's no end in sight!
|
| What I appreciate about GTD and its context lists that look and
| feel like TODO lists is that they are short. While I may have
| items sitting on mine for several weeks at a time, overall, they
| feel entirely manageable, like about a week's worth of work. GTD
| provides me with other tools to get stuff out of my head and
| reliably resurface them when needed.
|
| (Edit: style)
| whoomp12342 wrote:
| What if TODOs were a graph instead of a tree? that way they can
| update themselves!
| badsectoracula wrote:
| This is basically an outliner[0]. Looking around the page i
| didn't see any graphics, only text. At the past i wrote a text-
| only outliner[1] which while very useful, i eventually found the
| need to embed images, change text styles, etc and the only way to
| do it would be to basically rewrite 90% of it (so i never
| bothered) as it was written explicitly for console/text mode.
| Since you are using graphical output, i'd recommend to check what
| sort of non-text functionality you can add (checkmarks,
| progressbars -which IMO are inferior to percentages anyway-, etc
| aren't really taking advantage of graphics, i refer to things
| like images or even videos, text styling, etc).
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliner
|
| [1] http://runtimeterror.com/tools/ol/
| entropie wrote:
| I use codemirror texteditor and haml so I can write stuff
| directly on the website. I have #hashtags to connect single
| sheets with each other but basicially its an outliner. Works
| pretty good for my needs.
|
| https://i.imgur.com/C1wImlG.png
| [deleted]
| orzen wrote:
| Could not find a github/gitlab link so nack.
| chaghalibaghali wrote:
| "Dool" / dwl means "penis" in Farsi.
|
| This got me wondering if anyone's built a service to catch these
| kinds of things and it turns out they have! Wordsafety.com
| catches this successfully
| [deleted]
| dotancohen wrote:
| This looks like a great was of managing todos (storing the notes,
| setting their state, tagging them, changing their state, setting
| their dependency todos, deciding in which colour each note
| type/state/tag should appear, moving it in the calendar, toggling
| the stopwatch/timer/pomodoro, etc) instead of actually just doing
| the things on the list.
| kanzure wrote:
| There's also hnb: https://hnb.sourceforge.net/
| kkfx wrote:
| To my eyes seems to be the nth modern notebook UI application,
| witch is NOT a critics but a consideration: on classic systems,
| from old Smalltalk to actual Emacs the "notebook" or "document"
| UI was and are the norm.
|
| Then the critic part: ALL such modern "document-centric UI" have
| one and ONLY ONE purpose, witch means they can't be integrated
| with anything else. For instance I can't link an email and an
| open ticket in a task in Todool, simply because that document UI
| lack the knowledge for such action while in Emacs/org-mode I
| perfectly can link an Email, a ticket, a feed post, an HN post
| etc NOT because someone have implemented that specific feature in
| an app but because there is no app but a unique ecosystem
| extended by "apps", no separation, no special IPCs needed.
|
| Long story short: while _potentially_ modern apps can do more
| graphically than classic ones, simply because those are almost
| stuck at 40 /50 years ago development, they all fail because all
| are single application running on bare-bone crappy systems
| designed to be like a container ship for commercial purpose,
| instead of a unique ecosystem where any app is just a set of
| functions.
|
| Please, all devs, think about that. FLOSS CAN restore the ancient
| model, NO ONE corporate want simply because it's incompatible
| with their business needs, so "we can win" if instead of
| investing resources copying BigTech stuff for doing new things we
| develop old tech FAR MORE ADVANCED than modern one thanks to a
| user-centric design.
| withinboredom wrote:
| I'm still waiting for a todo tool that does todos how I do them.
| Each todo item has a TTL of 1 week, after that, it gets moved to
| the "never done" list if I don't update it before then.
|
| After a few years of doing things this way, and explaining it to
| my bosses over time, they come to understand that if you give me
| too many things to do at once, only the highest priority things
| will ever get done.
| iex_xei wrote:
| I began to use Trello and its automations for these kind of
| things.
| wardedVibe wrote:
| I'm fairly confident you could hack org-mode in Emacs to do
| this with a couple of lines of elisp.
| withinboredom wrote:
| That's basically how I do it now.
| gonzo41 wrote:
| That kinda of a symptom of a work culture that can only deal
| with crisis's and doesn't value steady strategic effort.
| [deleted]
| alephnan wrote:
| > Currently an alpha is available in their Discord server. I'm
| not the creator, if you have any questions about the program feel
| free to join the Discord server.
|
| This feels sketchy. I've never seen software distributed this
| way. Why not just provide a download link if the effort has
| already been made for the website with videos.
| badsectoracula wrote:
| I've seen it a bunch of times, mainly from people closer to
| gaming/gamedev (considering the site is from handmade.network,
| even if not official, it is very tangentially related to Casey
| Muratori's Handmade Hero series).
|
| I think it is the modern version of "to download the latest
| version visit our forum at XYZ" in an attempt to build some
| sort of community around a project.
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