[HN Gopher] What Is the Web Revival?
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       What Is the Web Revival?
        
       Author : spansoa
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2022-05-29 20:15 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | scyclow wrote:
       | It makes me very happy to know that all of these websites exist.
       | 
       | It also makes me sad to see unnecessary hostility towards crypto.
       | I get it: most NFTs are hyper commercialized trash, and they're
       | in direct opposition to the values outlined in this article. But
       | there's also so much weird, non-commercialized crypto stuff out
       | there that shares a lot of the ethos of early web tinkerers.
        
         | meowkit wrote:
         | Reading the yesterweb criticism page of crypto/web3 that is
         | linked to by the OP makes me think this movement is not going
         | to gain much momentum. The criticism is somewhat accurate, but
         | extremely shallow and makes no attempt to steel man potential
         | benefits.
         | 
         | Not that I expect this to land well with the HN crowd, but
         | web3/crypto has the tyrannical effects of capitalism/growth on
         | its side as a force for the "future of the web". Going up
         | against that with the non-profit model seems... quaint.
        
           | kelseyfrog wrote:
           | Yesterweb asks a simple question, "Can't we have one thing,
           | one measly crumb-of-a-thing, not tainted by capitalism?" And
           | the resounding response is "NO."
        
         | giantrobot wrote:
         | > But there's also so much weird, non-commercialized crypto
         | stuff out there that shares a lot of the ethos of early web
         | tinkerers.
         | 
         | Bullshit. Without miners there's no "crypto" and without
         | payouts there's no miners. So "web3" can _only_ exist where
         | there 's some financial incentive to run miners. Users can't
         | spend real money to access this system so they need to convert
         | their money to Geoffrey dollars to even access "web3" content.
         | This is 180deg from the "old web". End users needed no more
         | investment than their computer and Internet connection. They
         | didn't have to prop up some asshole's upline to check out the
         | Unofficial X-Files Fan Page.
        
         | MrAwesome wrote:
         | I am not aware of any non-commercialized crypto anything (from
         | my understanding, this is sorta by definition, but maybe I'm
         | missing something). Do you have any examples?
        
       | Semiapies wrote:
       | I support more people having websites, if only to make it harder
       | for people to pretend it's revolutionary and special to do so.
        
       | hirundo wrote:
       | This is what the world looked like when it felt
       | safe/exciting/mysterious, maybe I'll feel that way now if I make
       | it look like that again. For me that world is in the seventies,
       | not the nineties. I want a psychedelic not a web revival.
        
         | hprotagonist wrote:
         | microdosing is VC backed now! aren't you thrilled?! :/
        
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