[HN Gopher] Linode Managed Databases
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Linode Managed Databases
Author : vincent_s
Score : 57 points
Date : 2022-05-24 19:00 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| ivyirwin wrote:
| Excited to check this out. I'm a long time Linode user and
| recently came across some projects that could leverage a managed
| DB. As always, I find the prices competitive - especially
| compared to AWS which I was starting to look at again for this
| component, but now I can try it out here instead.
| WalterGR wrote:
| Linode doesn't seem to come up much. The only submission in the
| past year that's gotten more than a couple comments is:
|
| Akamai to Acquire Linode (https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-
| release/akamai-to-acqu...)
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30352772
|
| 986 points | nycdatasci | 3 months ago | 326 comments
| mattbillenstein wrote:
| I like them, they're my solidly "other cloud" option - running
| my personal VPS's, dev workloads at some companies, prod at
| others, etc.
| apocalyptic0n3 wrote:
| Their support has always been best in class. Extremely
| responsive and always helpful. It's one of the reasons we
| decided to stick with them after the security incidents. The
| support was good enough to outweigh those concerns.
| tiffanyh wrote:
| Has anyone tried Linode Bare Metal?
|
| It's been in Beta for literally years now.
|
| https://www.linode.com/products/bare-metal/
| bryans wrote:
| > It's been in Beta for literally years now.
|
| "Years" is quite a stretch. On December 30, 2019, they
| announced[1] bare metal servers as being part of their roadmap
| for 2020, and then announced the beta on June 16, 2021. Given
| the necessity of on-site labor to launch a bare metal service,
| I think it's perfectly reasonable for it take more than a year
| in the midst of a pandemic.
|
| [1] https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/2019-a-year-in-review/
|
| [2] https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/celebrating-18-years/
| l5870uoo9y wrote:
| Been wondering how much uptime you get with "these" managed
| databases? Currently running similar service on Digital Ocean and
| unsure if extra database nodes are necessary (2 failover nodes
| increases cost significantly).
| chasd00 wrote:
| i've used linode on various projects for a while (my first
| invoice was in 2013). no complaints.
| my69thaccount wrote:
| Not even about the numerous security incidents?
| chasd00 wrote:
| well i went back and skimmed their incidents. I mean, yeah
| those incidents suck, there's really no way around it.
|
| My day job has changed a lot since 2013. Could I, in clear
| conscious, recommend Linode to a client today? I would need
| to know each incident in detail and how they've changed and
| be convinced the past is staying in the past. My setup has
| always been there when i needed it and support has always
| been responsive and that goes a long ways. However, we all
| know a secure environment is at the top of the list.
| groggo wrote:
| I'd really like access to a tiny, almost free, sql database for
| personal projects.
|
| The cheapest option here is $15 a month, and similar prices for
| other cloud managed dbs.
|
| Heroku was nice and I guess is still a good option, but hard to
| make a usable site on their free tier because of start up time.
|
| Then there's the interesting new option from Cloudflare, D1.
|
| Currently I just run my personal project on AWS lambda +
| dynamodb. It's free, but using dynamodb for relational data is a
| little awkward.
| ajbourg wrote:
| I have a similar desire, I'm considering trying out AWS' RDS
| Aurora Serverless v2. (ugh, that's a mouthful) Full
| Postgres/MySQL but extremely quick scale up and down so as long
| as you have small use, it shouldn't cost a ton.
|
| I'm also super interested in Cloudflare D1, looking to get my
| hands on it and try it out.
| kam wrote:
| Aurora Serverless v2 doesn't scale to zero, though. Minimum
| capacity costs $43/month.
| dinvlad wrote:
| Same here - and particularly one that could serve multiple
| hobby projects, while using both dev and prod envs (so minimal
| cost could already be 2-3x).
| gen220 wrote:
| Have you looked into fly.io? They have a very generous free
| tier for hobby level projects.
|
| https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/
| password4321 wrote:
| https://supabase.com/pricing
|
| 2 free 500MB PostgreSQL db's, paused after a week of inactivity
| burggraf wrote:
| Supabase developer here. Just to clarify, inactivity means
| "no api calls, no dashboard usage", so your project only gets
| paused if it's truly inactive for a full week. If you have an
| application with any sort of usage at all you should not get
| paused.
| testmasterflex wrote:
| https://server.pro smallest VPS plan costs $5 and has one click
| installer for MySQL.
| mikece wrote:
| Seems that Digital Ocean comes up quite a bit on HN; Linode does
| from time to time... who else is in this market segment?
| pbowyer wrote:
| UpCloud (more expensive, were v fast IO when I started using
| them, not benchmarked for a couple of years)
|
| Vultr (have had reliability issues; again no recent data)
| bryans wrote:
| I wanted to like Vultr, but had reliability issues from day
| one, even while running nothing but a basic Nginx instance.
| And instead of the support staff acknowledging the issues or
| offering any solutions (or even reading my emails, frankly),
| they rather aggressively told me they don't see an issue, and
| even if there _is_ an issue that I would need to fix it
| myself -- completely disregarding the visible evidence that
| it was at the networking layer.
|
| It was one of the most infuriating exchanges I've had with
| support staff from any company. If there was any redeeming
| factor, it's that the COO sent a long email apologizing for
| the CSR's behavior. But when all was said and done, the VPS
| was still inaccessible a dozen or more times per day, and an
| apology from an executive doesn't change that.
| menacingly wrote:
| anecdotally of course, I've really enjoyed working with vultr
| the last few years. Great performance, and their services are
| simple and well thought through.
|
| It's perhaps a little too easy to bump into their initial
| account spending limits, but that's about the only nit I can
| pick. It's probably pretty tiresome fighting fraud on a VPS
| platform.
| dgb23 wrote:
| Exoscale (CH).
| config_yml wrote:
| I wish they had some kind of block storage support.
| Sebb767 wrote:
| Hetzner is pretty similar in its cloud offerings, but it's also
| not uncommon on HN.
| emptysongglass wrote:
| The Finnish company Aiven.io is doing really cool stuff with
| managed services for most things you'd want as a startup to
| mid-size business.
| GauntletWizard wrote:
| Everytime I see it posted, I am linked to vultr[1] and
| Upcloud[2]. Hetzner[3] and OVHCloud[4] are slightly different
| market segments, but comparable. Worth noting is Amazon
| Lightsail[5], which is ec2-but-different.
|
| [1] https://www.vultr.com/ [2] https://upcloud.com/ [3]
| https://www.hetzner.com/cloud [4] https://us.ovhcloud.com/vps/
| [5] https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/
| TedDoesntTalk wrote:
| I've had years of experience with OVH. I would never choose
| them for a new project. Their product is acceptable , but the
| customer support people are jerks. Consistently, for years. I
| can provide very specific examples if you want.
|
| EDIT: also have years of experience with Linode, Vultr,
| DigitalOcean, and even Upcloud (Spanish company as I recall).
| vincent_s wrote:
| Pricing: https://www.linode.com/pricing/#databases
| metadat wrote:
| Seems a little pricey.. are they competing with AWS Managed
| Postgres?
| freedomben wrote:
| Were you looking at dedicated CPU or shared CPU? I made that
| mistake when i first looked and was shocked at how much more
| it was than DO, but after noticing that it seems like the
| same price.
| showerst wrote:
| Yeah, it seems weird that they're a lot more than
| digitalocean.
| api wrote:
| Everybody charges a log for managed DB. The arcane nature of
| Postgres is a great cash bonanza for cloud providers.
| latchkey wrote:
| Weird how this is your impression. Maybe people tend to
| over allocate their instances? I've been super careful to
| choose exactly what I need for my application. My GCP Cloud
| Postgres instance is the second smallest (1 vcpu, 1.7gb,
| 15gb).
|
| I'm 24/7 doing 300 tran/s with ~20% cpu utilization and it
| only costs $27.34 a month. I just upgraded to Postgres 14
| (from 13) with a click of a button and a few seconds of
| switchover downtime. Seems more than worth the price.
| akrymski wrote:
| Paying $300 per year for something that a raspberry pi +
| sqlite could handle is still very expensive imo.
| latchkey wrote:
| Not sure if that is a troll response, but that is very
| much of an apple/orange comparison.
|
| 1. My application needs postgres as it uses a few
| specific queries that sqlite does not support the same
| way. Hello `interval`.
|
| 2. Backups are automatic and transparent.
|
| 3. Upgrades, instance sizing and disk expansion are just
| a few clicks away.
|
| 4. I don't have to deal with hosting, power, internet,
| security.
|
| 5. Charts, logs, metrics all built in.
|
| 6. On the same network as the rest of the frontend... gcp
| functions.
|
| Just one of those alone is worth the $300/yr imho.
| jf93ap29sh wrote:
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