[HN Gopher] We spent $980k on a failed SaaS project
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       We spent $980k on a failed SaaS project
        
       Author : zupo
       Score  : 42 points
       Date   : 2022-05-23 12:00 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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       | dvt wrote:
       | > All of this resulted in revenue being slow. Really slow. It
       | took us 16 months after launch to get to $5k MRR. In our
       | succesful project, we started with $5k MRR.
       | 
       | I think that early traction is the key indicator of potential
       | future success. Unless you're working in an industry where early
       | traction is literally impossible to attain (pharmaceuticals,
       | medical, VR hardware, R&D, etc.), the market tends to be pretty
       | responsive.
       | 
       | If you're working on a piece of software, make a "free tier" open
       | source version, give it out for free, get as many people to try
       | it out as you can. If people aren't even remotely excited, pivot:
       | it's not a good idea.
       | 
       | It's like fishing: if you're getting no nibbles, change the bait.
        
         | zupo wrote:
         | The trick is in knowing where to draw the line. We definitely
         | felt we had "some" tracking. We had hundreds of people sign up
         | to our newsletter. We had a couple of users that absolutely
         | raved about the product (or as it turned out later, not about
         | the product specifically, but the support we were providing).
         | 
         | We asked ourselves many times: is this "too slow" or are we
         | just being impatient?
        
           | zupo wrote:
           | Additionally, there is a huge difference in getting free
           | users and getting paid users.
           | 
           | We tried with a very low-price plan and got a lot of interest
           | & signups. The moment we raised the prices a bit to cover
           | hosting costs, the interest went away.
        
             | Centigonal wrote:
             | Did you consider trying a debt/capital backed growth
             | strategy? Where you take on funding and use it to subsidize
             | introductory pricing to gain market share ahead of raising
             | prices? cf. Spotify's free 3 month trial, AWS free tier,
             | food delivery app shenanigans.
             | 
             | I feel like this strategy is often just delaying and
             | magnifying a failure, but if you really believe your
             | product is better than similarly priced products, and the
             | hurdle was getting customers to switch, then providing
             | aggressive price incentives for switching, then ratcheting
             | prices to parity would probably work pretty well.
        
             | throwaway743 wrote:
             | What was the price difference between the low price and
             | increase?
        
           | dvt wrote:
           | > We asked ourselves many times: is this "too slow" or are we
           | just being impatient?
           | 
           | Yeah, this is extremely tricky to gauge (and I'm no expert),
           | but when it "clicks" it's hard to miss.
        
             | zupo wrote:
             | Yep, completely agree. We had a project before when it
             | "clicked" and we could tell.
        
       | blueberrypi4 wrote:
       | You mentioned that you had a decent amount of low-price plan
       | signups - how much did you increase the prices that scared away
       | your customers? Curious if you tried lowering prices again/used
       | other discount pricing strategies.
        
       | Baopab wrote:
       | Oh wow, what a roller coaster ride! Thanks for sharing, this is
       | just so much more informative than the usual "look how successful
       | I am" posts!
       | 
       | And good luck with your future projects, Pareto Security sure
       | looks interesting!
        
       | altdataseller wrote:
       | How is Pareto Security different from endpoint security solutions
       | like CrowdStrike (which our team uses for all the Macs we
       | distribute)
        
         | zupo wrote:
         | It's "zero trust". I.e. no-one from Pareto Security, nor anyone
         | from your company can access or track any of your Macs.
         | 
         | The only thing that the local agent running on a Mac does, is
         | sending a list of failing checks every now and then. It does
         | not allow any centralized pushing of configuration, no
         | tracking, no remote access, nada.
        
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