[HN Gopher] Tinnitus Seems Linked with Sleep
___________________________________________________________________
Tinnitus Seems Linked with Sleep
Author : pseudolus
Score : 129 points
Date : 2022-05-21 12:02 UTC (11 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (theconversation.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (theconversation.com)
| lpapez wrote:
| Seeems very plausible. Anecdotal evidence datapoint: I just woke
| up from an afternoon nap and my ears were buzzing with high-
| pitched noise. The nap was exactly an hour long and it was an
| alarm that woke me up. By the time I read the article, the
| buzzing went away. Hope they figure it out.
| mannykannot wrote:
| I came to this article expecting it to be about a potential
| cause for tinnitus in disturbed sleep, but the claim within it
| actually seems to be that tinnitus causes sleep disturbance,
| specifically of slow-wave sleep.
| mcint wrote:
| I will watch this with great interest.
|
| Beginning to hear tinnitus is one of my backstop signals for
| tiredness, where I can avoid sleep deprivation inertia on waking,
| if I go to bed within half-an-hour to 2 hours of onset.
|
| It seems to reliably relate to changes in muscle tension I sense
| around my ear and upper neck, often some slow twitching as well.
| It's a related sensation to satisfying yawns, stretching that
| eustachian tube.
| keeganjw wrote:
| I never put two and two together but I think this tracks with my
| experience. I don't get deep sleep like I used to. For the last
| few years, I dream and wake up multiple times every night. I used
| to sleep through the night and only dream here and there. I also
| got tinnitus a few years ago. I couldn't swear that these
| happened at the same time but it makes sense.
| nosianu wrote:
| Alternatively, what contributed to your sleep issues also
| contributed to your tinnitus.
|
| I'm saying that because that was the case for me. A back then
| undiscovered dose of mercury led to all kinds of back then
| mostly ignored ("it's not that bad and it'll probably go way" -
| I was young) issues, and some tinnitus was just a part of it,
| but also some serious sleep issues.
|
| Any such environmental factors are rarely diagnosed, because
| that's really hard unless it's so bad that it's severe acute
| poisoning. But any less than that probably won't ever be
| discovered and will all be attributed - by the person
| themselves too (in my case definitely) - to "stress" (even if
| there is not that much) or aging. You can't detect it with
| imaging, symptoms are inconclusive at best, and forget blood
| tests, they are only useful for said acute poisonings.
|
| > _and only dream here and there_
|
| You would not know if you dreamed, normally. Only if you wake
| up while still dreaming. Even then usually you quickly forget
| most or all of what it was about. To remember more you have to
| wake up right in the middle of it.
|
| By the way, speaking about dreams, during the years when I had
| those issues my dreams often were nightmares, they were full of
| feelings of helplessness, being unable or barely able to move,
| and generally very unpleasant. I had more than once during
| those harder times dreams where parts of my body were very
| seriously diseased including total tissue disintegration and
| open holes in my body, inside the dream.
|
| Those dreams came from "below", from the "hardware", not from
| my (completely unconcerned) consciousness (I hope I kind of get
| across what I mean, not sure how to formulate this correctly).
| What I mean is, at the time I had no worries about my health
| whatsoever. All my problems, even though something like almost-
| asthma allergy coming out of nowhere and suddenly, seemed
| normal and manageable and as if it would all go away given some
| time, so I just coped (for example, hyposensitization
| treatment) and worked around the issues but didn't think much
| of it.
|
| Since the problem was actually diagnosed (university clinic,
| lab tests) and solved (chelators, for years) my dreams have
| become AMAZING, and super interesting too. I'm so glad I had to
| wake up during some of them (alarm was set) so that I actually
| remember some. I never knew what great fantasies,
| sophistication and city-, house- and landscapes my brain was
| capable of generating, it was just terrible before.
|
| Given that experience, I think even if it's kind of useless
| because it's way too vague and probably very dependent on the
| individual, the contents of dreams might give some indications
| to a body's health status too.
| karmakaze wrote:
| The way I would interpret the article relates to my experience
| with lucid imaging. Sort of like dreaming but I'm really just
| seeing a scene rather than experiencing something. I can only do
| this in similar conditions as lucid dreaming (but I've very
| rarely experienced that). The thing I found is that you have to
| have no external perceptions for my imagined ones to form. Once
| I've seen the real world, it's near impossible to forget it and
| get back to my imagined one.
|
| I suspect that tinnitus is similar in that the lack of an
| external signal allows for filling in with imagined sounds. Since
| there's no external reset the default could be simple tones (at
| least that's what I hear). For the analogy to hold the pitches of
| the sounds imagined should match frequencies of hearing loss. I
| tried to match up what I imagine I hear with recorded tones and
| it's close to the limit, e.g. I can hear faintly up to about 16
| kHz and the tone I imagine is about 15 kHz--I don't recall the
| exact numbers but it was relatively like that.
|
| I suppose with practice one could imagine hearing something while
| awake in those frequencies to the point it's indistinguishable
| from actually hearing it. I don't think I'd want to learn how to
| induce specific sounds or voices in my head that I can't turn off
| at will. At least you can know that the high-pitched sounds
| aren't real.
| cptnapalm wrote:
| I've had tinnitus as long as I can remember. Watching a Bugs
| Bunny cartoon where Elmer Fudd got hit over the head and he says
| "somebody answer that phone" or some such, I didn't get the joke
| so I asked my dad. He told me some people have ringing in their
| ears. I couldn't have been more than 7 and that was how I learned
| it was abnormal. I have always had poor hearing too. Don't know
| why to either of them.
| oifjsidjf wrote:
| My (relatively mild) tinitus completely dissapeated when I was
| severely modifying my diet.
|
| I do not know what exactly is that cause of it but I lean in the
| direction that it's one of these
|
| 1) Blood electrolyte levels
|
| 2)meat
|
| 3) carbs/sugars in large amount
|
| One could experiment with a keto diet for start.
| sepnax wrote:
| Definitely me. Tinnitus: check, Sleeping disturbances: check,
| Night terrors: check
| jamamp wrote:
| Funnily enough, I have mild tinnitus, but sleep very soundly. I
| have a fan on 24/7 in my bedroom that helps enough for drowning
| out the tinnitus sound. I rarely if ever wake up in the middle
| of the night, and wake up fairly refreshed. I even fall asleep
| relatively fast compared to some other people I know.
|
| Elsewhere in this thread, it's been mentioned that there are
| several types of tinnitus (it's apparently an umbrella term),
| and some tinnitus can be caused by a firm pillow and bruxism,
| which fits my description.
|
| I wonder if the type of tinnitus has more or less effect on
| sleep than others.
| thrusong wrote:
| I have this condition called visual snow syndrome, a neurological
| condition which causes my tinnitus. Symptoms are always there,
| but luckily, mine are mild. The tinnitus is the most noticeable
| though unless I'm listening to music.
| PBnFlash wrote:
| I had never heard of visual snow, it's interesting that the
| symptoms seem to primarily be the brain not rejecting normal
| noise sources like floaters and white blood cells.
| thrusong wrote:
| That's how I understand it, that it's some combination of
| interference getting into the nerves after the images are
| merged from the eyes, but also that the brain also doesn't
| filter out things that it normally does.
| danaos wrote:
| Did you get diagnosed by a professional? I suspect I suffer
| from the same rare symptoms but I am too affraid to ask an
| ophthalmologist on such a rare condition.
| thrusong wrote:
| I don't have an official diagnosis, but I did see an
| optometrist because I was afraid I was going blind who said
| "I know exactly what you're describing." I then saw my GP who
| ordered an MRI to make sure it wasn't MS.
|
| The MRI found absolutely nothing. My eye doctor says my eyes
| are extremely healthy.
|
| My symptoms line up exactly with VSS and I had a lot of peace
| of mind knowing what I was experiencing and that I wasn't
| going blind, so I didn't pursue the proper further test (PET
| scan, I think).
|
| Honestly, the peace of mind was worth it, but be armed with
| research on it.
| shafyy wrote:
| After reading your comment, I looked up visual snow syndrome,
| and I think I have it, too. I guess not much one can do about
| it?
| garganzol wrote:
| Search for Beriberi. This is a condition caused by a
| malnutrition. The end result is onset of an acquired
| mitochondrial dysfunction which leads to some degree of a
| neurological damage.
|
| There are various possible causes for acquiring a
| mitochondrial dysfunction beyond the malnutrition. The good
| news is that it can treated if it is not caused by a genetic
| defect.
|
| The treatment is similar to treating Beriberi, regardless of
| the original cause. The unpleasant part is that it takes some
| time and patience ranging from months to years.
| jdr23bc wrote:
| I have this too. Is there some study showing it is the same
| underlying problem causing both symptoms? I only knew that you
| are more likely to have tinnitus and migraines if you have
| visual snow.
|
| There are some treatments for both symptoms. The ones I've
| tried involve listening or looking at static. Neither had much
| effect on me.
|
| The best way I've found to deal with it is to ignore it.
| focusing on treatments preversly makes me more aware of the
| annoyance.
| garganzol wrote:
| There may be the same underlying problem for both tinnitus
| and visual snow. The problem can be characterised as a
| systemic neurological damage. For example, it can be caused
| by the loss of myelin in nerve fibres.
|
| In turn, that condition is commonly caused by the underlying
| metabolic problems, which can be caused by genetic mutations
| in mitochondria, toxins, episodes of hypoxia, unhealthy
| lifestyles, oxidative stress.
|
| When this happens, the other symptoms may include chronic
| fatigue, acquired insulin resistance, T2DM, sometimes various
| neurological manifestations in different parts of the body,
| and even dementia. Personal mileage may vary, it really goes
| from 1 to 11.
| thrusong wrote:
| After seeking medical help, my doctor did discover I had a
| critical B12 deficiency, but AFAIK there is no connection
| even though I had nerve damage from the B12 issues.
|
| Apparently a healthy number is 500+, most people will present
| with issues in the 250-300 range, and I was at 166 when
| critical is 144ish.
|
| I have to take a daily pill for the rest of my life and
| things have improved, but the VSS is still the same.
| blenderdt wrote:
| Unfortunately I have 3 types of tinnitus: caused by hearing loss,
| caused by neck muscles, caused by too much stimulus (stress, a
| long drive, too much caffeine, and so on).
|
| Hearing loss can not be healed but the other two types always go
| away after good sleep.
|
| If you got tinnitus it is good to figure out if there is a cause
| that can be taken away. Sometimes you are in luck and a good deep
| sleep can improve things.
| dahart wrote:
| How do you isolate and identify the different causes? I think I
| have all three of these at times, and I suspect neck muscles
| because cervical traction seems to help sometimes. But it's
| _really_ hard to pin anything down concretely, tinnitus seems
| so evasive. Sometimes I can't even match tones I can hear loud
| and clear when using a tone generator.
| blenderdt wrote:
| This is just experience over the years. I started to notice
| what caused it.
| garganzol wrote:
| >the other two types always go away after good sleep
|
| In other words, it seems the other two types of tinnitus are
| sensitive to the amount of reactive oxygen species (ROS).
|
| When you sleep, the ROS are suppressed by glutathione. Then,
| you feel fresh and rested when you wake up.
|
| When you go through your day, the amount of ROS slowly but
| steadily increases until you sleep and allow glutathione to do
| its job again. The cycle repeats.
|
| Given that your tinnitus seems to depend on ROS, I would
| suggest to experiment with NAC 600 mg and see whether it
| improves the symptoms. NAC is a glutathione precursor and
| causes the immediate suppression of ROS.
|
| If there is a correlation then the condition can be treated and
| improved.
| mdaniel wrote:
| Is there a medical specialist that one can go talk to about
| this approach? I am open to trying it, but would rather do so
| using someone with a medical license versus Internet wisdom
| chinathrow wrote:
| > Hearing loss can not be healed
|
| My friend had a tinnitus for a while and later found out it's
| due to hearing problems on both ears. He then got hearing aids
| and the tinnitus went away.
|
| So it looks like, _some_ form of hearing loss induced tinnitus
| can be treated.
| d23 wrote:
| Where do you even find a doctor who can tell you? I haven't
| been able to get past: "well your hearing looks fine, good
| luck" (even though I've done independent tests to see that I
| have significant loss in the tinnitus side above 10khz; they
| just didn't test that high).
| riffraff wrote:
| I had the same thought, to be fair, the doctors did get me to
| make a few exams, but the end result was still "well your
| hearing looks fine, good luck".
|
| It's been a few years now. I'm lucky since the noise in my
| ear is not too strong and often I don't think about it unless
| I'm alone in silence, but it somewhat sad to think of never
| being able to hear silence again.
| dahart wrote:
| Anyone have good coping resources or tips to share?
|
| If my tinnitus is bad during the day, I use these pages, and they
| do often help in varying degrees.
|
| https://generalfuzz.net/acrn/
|
| https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/whiteBurstsNoiseGenerator....
|
| https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/neuromodulationTonesGenera...
| Mizza wrote:
| I have tinnitus so badly that some days I am incapacitated.
| It's bad. I use white noise machines to get through the day -
| it masks it but doesn't make it go away.
|
| The thing that I've discovered that actually makes it go away:
| extreme bass. Massive, 18" speaker cabinets and kilowatt
| amplifiers for long periods of time, the kind that makes your
| whole body vibrate, while wearing ear protection. I discovered
| my first this after DJ'ing a club with a proper bass
| soundsystem and have confirmed it since. The effect lasts from
| weeks to months.
|
| I found a few things in the medical literature which support
| this as a real possibility and emailed a researchers about it
| who said the same thing. I am seriously considering opening up
| a crackpot bass-therapy clinic to help other sufferers, but
| need to have other people confirm it works for them first.
| orzig wrote:
| The world needs more people boldly experimenting, I commend
| you! (And be careful)
| cpeterso wrote:
| I've read about a proposed treatment of listening to
| _notched_ white noise. The theory is that, by listening to
| white noise with a notch filter at the frequency that matches
| your tinnitus frequency, your ears or brain will become less
| sensitive to your tinnitus frequency. There are websites with
| reference tones to help find your tinnitus frequency and
| YouTube videos of white noise notched at different
| frequencies (supposedly, I haven't verified).
|
| I have tinnitus and listen to white, brown, and pink noise
| throughout the day. I tried notched white noise for a couple
| months, but didn't notice any change compared to regular
| white noise. My favorite noise these days is "space ship
| engine noise" videos on YouTube. I get to pretend I'm working
| on the Enterprise. :)
| dahart wrote:
| Whoa never heard this before! Thanks for sharing, will
| definitely be trying it. I'll report back here when I do.
|
| Btw, how long do you listen to bass sounds? And do you have
| thoughts/opinions on what frequencies and how much variation
| is needed? Just wondering if I should use a tone generator or
| put on some EDM, and whether I should try at home or it'll
| take long enough that I should go somewhere that the
| neighbors won't hear it for hours.
| Mizza wrote:
| The point is that it is _tactile subbass_, bordering on
| infrasound. It is a type of bass that most people probably
| haven't experienced unless they are going to real reggae or
| club events, and most clubs in the US don't have real
| soundsystems, just PAs pushed to the red.
|
| I've tried, I can't just listen to a low sin note on
| headphones to fix it (in fact maybe this makes it worse). I
| actually don't think the ears are important, it is being
| physically vibrated that does it. I tried with a SubPac
| transduction woofer and it maybe worked? But not to the
| degree I'm really talking about here. A strange phenomena.
| I don't even like reggae that much but I got to the monthly
| reggae dance here just to get vibrated.
| daggersandscars wrote:
| I wonder if going to a top fuel drag race would have a
| similar effect[0]. The sound pressure levels are intense,
| to the level of moving one's internal organs around if
| one is close to the cars. It is something that has to be
| experienced.
|
| If one is going for the first time, I'd recommend going
| to the qualifying rounds. It's often cheaper and usually
| less crowded. Make sure top fuel funny cars or dragsters
| are racing -- the lower classes are significantly
| quieter.
|
| [0] Wearing hearing protection. I'd recommend the kind
| that go in the ear, covered by the kind that go over the
| ear.
| [deleted]
| hnfong wrote:
| That explains the (literally, no exaggeration) deafening
| music especially the subwoofers from the bars a couple
| streets below...
| treeman79 wrote:
| Laying down increases cranial pressure. A symptom of high cranial
| pressure is tinnitus.
|
| On support forums people often wonder why head pain is worse
| after laying down for awhile.
|
| See "Idiopathic intracranial hypertension" Also called:
| pseudotumor cerebri
| kordlessagain wrote:
| I have had periodic tinnitus in my left ear for maybe 10 years
| and I'm 55. I would say that it "comes and goes" after sleeping.
| Rarely have I noted it going away or coming back while I'm awake.
|
| I have some high frequency hearing loss in this ear, probably due
| to using noisy machinery in my 20s without proper hearing
| protection. Anytime I do loud things nowadays, I wear hearing
| protection.
|
| I have noticed my tinnitus seems less frequent if I stay properly
| hydrated. I have a tendency to forget to drink water and making a
| point of it seems to help.
| daanlo wrote:
| When I was in the army, during training, my room mate had
| tinnitus, from stress and a loud noise. He was asked to drink a
| LOT of water by the medics. This was almost 20y ago, so I don't
| remember the details, but hydration seems to be a treatment. I
| only remember since it seemed weird to me at the time.
| PainfullyNormal wrote:
| After a good night's sleep, your blood pressure also goes down.
| I've been monitoring my blood pressure for a few months and I've
| noticed that my tinnitus gets better or worse depending on how
| high my blood pressure is.
| dazc wrote:
| I worked on lowering my blood pressure and for certain my
| tinnutus has become a lot milder, and my life a lot more
| liveable as a consequence.
| garganzol wrote:
| It would be cool to additionally match this with blood glucose
| levels. It may give some good hints.
|
| For example, if tinnitus gets worse while blood pressure and
| glucose both go up (without eating) then it may be a hint of an
| underlying metabolic problem.
|
| To confirm this further, you can then eat 15 g of sugar and see
| what happens next. If tinnitus improves then the hypothesis of
| metabolic underlying problem becomes very, very probable.
| dazc wrote:
| Sugar and spicy food without doubt aggrevate my symptoms.
| garganzol wrote:
| What if you stay hungry for several hours? Is there an
| improvement of symptoms?
| amelius wrote:
| The link might be through sleep bruxism. The ear is very close to
| the jaw and I suppose that jaw tension might have an effect in
| the ear. TMD sufferers also frequently complain about tinnitus.
| chadcmulligan wrote:
| I had vague problems in that area and changed pillows - I had a
| harder latex sort of pillow that was moulded, moved to a cheapo
| supermarket pillow and seems to have gone away.
| orzig wrote:
| I will just note I went to physical therapy for shoulder pain
| for a few months until I realized I just needed a less-firm
| pillow.
|
| Meta lesson: just try things!
| cmarschner wrote:
| Generally stress often manifests in tight jaw muscles. And the
| jaw is close to the nerves that cause one form of tinnitus. And
| the jaw muscles are also connected to the muscles in neck and
| shoulders. And these muscles are often strained with people
| that spend their days hunched over computer screens.
|
| So, jaw relaxation, posture, sports does it for me.
| jamamp wrote:
| This is very interesting to me. I have bruxism (extra bone
| growth on the top of my jaw by my back teeth) as well as mild
| tinnitus, and I have firm pillows I sleep on. I will do some
| research on TMJ/bruxism-specific or just softer pillows. I'm
| sure it'll be a very long-term fix and not see immediate
| results, but the link between TMJ/bruxism and tinnitus is an
| interesting area, and might be my own cause. Thank you for the
| comment!
| PragmaticPulp wrote:
| Tinnitus is a difficult topic because it's a catch-all term for
| several different conditions that cause ear noise. There's even a
| category of tinnitus for sounds within the ear that can be
| objectively heard by someone other than the sufferer - This is
| known as "objective tinnitus".
| bitL wrote:
| So it's like "anxiety" - a catch-all term when doctors have no
| clue.
| kirubakaran wrote:
| If I were a doctor and I had no clue, I'd definitely have
| anxiety.
| jrace wrote:
| Kind of, Tinnitus refers to the symptom not the cause.
| starkd wrote:
| >> There's even a category of tinnitus for sounds within the
| ear that can be objectively heard by someone other than the
| sufferer - This is known as "objective tinnitus".
|
| This doesn't make sense. If it can be heard by someone else,
| its by definition an aural stimulus event and not tinnitis.
| robwwilliams wrote:
| The ears are capable of generating sound. See:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otoacoustic_emission
|
| The main function of this system is to protect the ear from
| loud sounds--noise canceling and/or modulate sensitivity as a
| function of spectrum.
| dahart wrote:
| That was my first thought as well, but it's a thing. One of
| those times I learned the definition of a word wasn't exactly
| what I thought it was (or, more precisely that the commonly
| used definition of a word actually needs a technical/clinical
| qualifier to be complete, such as "subjective" in this case,
| because other qualified definitions exist).
| https://www.medlink.com/articles/objective-tinnitus
|
| "Objective tinnitus is a perceived sensation of sound that
| occurs in the absence of external acoustic stimulation, but
| it can also be heard by the examiner (eg, by placing a
| stethoscope over the patient's external auditory canal).
| Objective tinnitus can occur either from perception of an
| abnormal somatosound or abnormal perception of a normal
| somatosound. Objective tinnitus is much less common than
| subjective tinnitus, but it often has an identifiable cause
| and may be curable, whereas subjective tinnitus is often
| idiopathic and is seldom curable."
| karmakaze wrote:
| I have both. I can hear blood rushing around my ears where the
| sound varies from windy/water rushy sounds to faint very high-
| pitched sounds. Then when I exert myself physically (e.g. get
| up suddenly after not moving a long while) there can be a kind
| of thud followed by very loud high (but not very high)
| frequency ringing. Once that happens regardless of how idle I
| am it doesn't go away for hours. Sometimes it just creeps up
| slowly from nothing in particular. The first kind mostly don't
| notice and forget it's there, the other is very distracting so
| play music or white-noise.
|
| Strangely I don't know that either of them interfere with
| falling asleep. It may very well be that I just don't even try
| to sleep unless tired and quiet, can't tell--I don't do it
| consciously. Lately I usually start something on Netflix or
| YouTube without autoplay so perhaps that's what I accidentally
| found to work.
| mickdarling wrote:
| Since I haven't seen this mentioned. It has been remarkable for a
| temporary solution to let me sleep when my tinnitus is
| particularly loud.
|
| Basically cover your ears with your palms and snap your index
| fingers loudly on the back of your skull. 40 or 50 times and when
| I remove my hands, it is blessed silence for at least a few
| minutes and often long enough to fall asleep.
|
| https://lifehacker.com/this-weird-trick-might-give-you-brief...
| rolleiflex wrote:
| Here's something better I've found to improve on it: you can
| get a $30 massage gun from Amazon with one of those round soft
| heads, gently put it to the back of your head where doing the
| manual exercise above hits with your fingers and run it at the
| slowest setting. It's exactly the same thing, and it's very
| effective for shutting off tinnitus. I do this when mine gets
| bad.
|
| I've also noticed my tinnitus is inversely proportional to the
| last night's sleep quality for me, so the article bears out on
| an anecdotal standpoint.
| ASalazarMX wrote:
| WTF tried this and my tinnitus diminished for half a minute.
| It's back now, but that was interesting.
|
| I think it has to do with how quiet is the environment, as the
| finger snaps are very loud and drown the tinnitus, but putting
| on my noise-cancelling headphones without music make it feel
| louder. Maybe a fan/rain/white noise generator would help
| people who have trouble sleeping because of tinnitus.
| aaaaaaaaata wrote:
| Isn't tinnitus part of your inner ear vibrating itself
| dysfunctionally (normally only moves sound-dependent for
| protection), and by giving it one large vibration, you're
| making it do the "protection" thing, stopping the vibrating?
| PheonixPharts wrote:
| > Around 15% of the world's population suffers from tinnitus
|
| As someone who has had chronic and constant tinnitus for nearly
| two decades I find this claim pretty questionable, or at least
| not clearly articulated (following through to the linked Lancet
| article didn't help much). Whenever I mention this fact in
| conversation people seem horrified, and in the sample "nearly
| everyone I have known for years" never encountered anyone who
| replies with "oh yea, same here".
|
| I'm assuming that 15% of the world's population does not suffer
| from _constant /chronic_ tinnitus, but I would also expect far
| greater than 15% has _ever_ had tinnitus, so I 'm not sure what
| this number means. The linked Lancet article didn't offer much
| help and mostly references a handbook that doesn't appear to be
| trivially findable online.
|
| Curious if anyone has discovered some clarification around this?
| hotpotamus wrote:
| I'd say there are tons of weird semi-medical things that people
| have that are basically benign that they just live with. I've
| had bouts with tinnitus; I went to the gun range with my cousin
| who I've known my whole life and mentioned the importance of
| hearing protection and to try and keep my tinnitus minimized.
| He mentioned he has the same issue.
|
| I also had what has been called "Alice in Wonderland Syndrome"
| as a child where I had strange sensations of my body feeling
| larger or smaller when going to sleep. I never thought much of
| it, but eventually I heard that it happens to other people too.
| dahart wrote:
| The link does clarify a bit about what they mean.
|
| "the scatter of prevalence estimates is wide, although most
| study results have shown rates of between 10% and 15% of the
| adult population. The largest and most scientifically reliable
| study was undertaken as part of the National Study of Hearing
| in England (n=48 313).3 The results of the study showed a
| prevalence of 10*1% among adults, with the tinnitus described
| as moderately annoying by 2*8% of respondents, severely
| annoying by 1*6%, and at a level that severely affected ability
| to lead a normal life by 0*5%. Results from studies in Egypt,4
| Japan,5 and Nigeria,6 indicate tinnitus prevalence is broadly
| similar in these countries to in Europe and the USA."
| dazc wrote:
| I have tinnitus, nobody ever asked me though. Any figure quoted
| is likley bullshit.
___________________________________________________________________
(page generated 2022-05-21 23:02 UTC)