[HN Gopher]  120k SVG logos, also available in PNG format
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        120k SVG logos, also available in PNG format
        
       Author : astonfred
       Score  : 136 points
       Date   : 2022-05-18 15:11 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (vectorwiki.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (vectorwiki.com)
        
       | omoikane wrote:
       | The search box suggested "spotify" and "twitter" as examples,
       | both returned some duplicate results. Does the 120k number count
       | those duplicates?
        
         | dymk wrote:
         | Searching for 'Airbnb' brings up the YCombinator logo
         | (presumably because of the investment relationship). Still
         | weird.
         | 
         | Ignoring that one, it came up with three airbnb logos, two of
         | which are the same, and the third is the lone "belo" symbol.
         | 
         | 33 results for "Facebook", most of which are emoji.
         | 
         | Guessing 120k is closer to 10k to 20k actual unique logos.
        
       | parhamn wrote:
       | It's funny we're on "hackernews" and all of the comments are
       | about licensing and legality (before you explain, I get why).
        
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       | Fileformat wrote:
       | Shameless self promotion: I have a search engine for svg logos
       | that includes Github, Wikipedia & a few others:
       | https://logosear.ch/
       | 
       | I avoid legal conundrums by not hosting any of the images and
       | just linking to the upstream host.
       | 
       | I'd love to add vectorwiki to the sources if you'd let me index
       | it!
        
       | ksajadi wrote:
       | There is also this https://worldvectorlogo.com/
        
       | Andrew_nenakhov wrote:
       | Now what we need is some plugin like Iconify [1] for Sketch to
       | pick it up and allow inserting vectors from it right into a
       | design file.
       | 
       | [1]: https://iconify.design/
        
         | astonfred wrote:
         | Yep, that's a good idea. I'd like also to open it the other way
         | to designers once it gets some traction. Step by step.
        
       | marcodiego wrote:
       | License?
        
         | whartung wrote:
         | There's two concerns here.
         | 
         | First, the license for the individual pieces of work. There's a
         | generic "wiki" license on the site which essentially says they
         | own everything save for "fair use", which muddy as heck.
         | 
         | What I'm talking about here is not the use of any particular
         | likeness, but of the rendition of that license. Since you have
         | an SVG file, that, in itself, is licensable content - like any
         | software.
         | 
         | Next, is the actual use of the likenesses. If I get a Twitter
         | logo from here, can I use it? That's more a trademark issue and
         | probably falls under that umbrella.
         | 
         | But you can see how you may be allowed to use a likeness
         | because of trademark policy, but not allowed to use THESE,
         | SPECIFIC incarnations of a likeness.
         | 
         | Vice a versa, these folks may well let you use their
         | likenesses, but the trademark issues prohibit it.
         | 
         | So, anyway, in the end, there's not a single license involved
         | here, me thinks, but potentially two.
        
       | mdoms wrote:
       | Fantastic resource which is sadly very America-centric. I
       | searched multiple major Australian and NZ brands (Penright,
       | Supercheap Auto, Marmite, Vegemite, Irwin, Bunnings, Enzed) with
       | no or poor results. But every American brand I could think of is
       | present.
        
         | astonfred wrote:
         | Thanks for your kind words. Do not hesitate to suggest some
         | additions. We've already added close to 100 user submissions
         | over the last 3 days. It's also a nice way for some startups to
         | gain a bit of exposure (you can provide a description and a
         | link to your site).
        
       | samtimalsina wrote:
       | As others have pointed out, licensing is unclear. It would be
       | nice if each logo could link the official branding guidelines
       | page when possible. For example, here are Twitter[1] and
       | Spotify[2] branding guidelines.
       | 
       | As for if you can freely distribute these logos, I would consult
       | a lawyer. It could be fair use, but I would not risk it.
       | 
       | [1] https://about.twitter.com/en/who-we-are/brand-toolkit
       | 
       | [2]
       | https://developer.spotify.com/documentation/general/design-a...
        
         | donmcronald wrote:
         | > It could be fair use, but I would not risk it.
         | 
         | I've always wanted to know the answer to this. There are _tons_
         | of themes and templates for websites that very obviously ignore
         | the branding guidelines. I wonder if the guidelines are even
         | enforceable.
         | 
         | If those guidelines are enforceable, isn't it risky for brands
         | to ignore all the misuse? I'm assuming that falls under
         | trademarks for enforcement, so, IMHO (not a lawyer), they're
         | all risking their logomarks by having such onerous branding
         | guidelines that no one wants to follow them and then also
         | failing to police the resulting misuse.
         | 
         | I asked about this in some webdev communities a while back and
         | the general consensus was that trying to follow the branding
         | guidelines and asking for permission was a mistake. The
         | feedback I got was that all you'd be doing is putting a target
         | on your back.
        
         | astonfred wrote:
         | Thanks for your comment. Good idea re: the brand guidelines, I
         | will share this suggestion with the team. We could add a
         | dedicated field for that purpose. We also plan to add HEX / RGB
         | Color references in the future. Users can download the logos to
         | use them for non-commercial projects and, if appropriate, to
         | link to their business partners, e.g. in the clients' / case
         | studies section of their website (which is a typical use case).
         | There is an informative notice on each image page.
        
       | goalie wrote:
       | Interesting, how'd you obtain the license to freely distribute
       | these? ;)
        
       | astonfred wrote:
       | Just adding a quick comment to mention that if you want to add
       | your own SVG logo to the site, you can do it by submitting it via
       | https://vectorwiki.com/upload Don't forget to add a short
       | description, tags and a link. Cheers.
        
       | egKYzyXeIL wrote:
       | Forgive my ignorance, I don't know a lot (anything) about
       | licensing, but I see a lot of comments asking about licensing in
       | particular. If this isn't legal, then what about icon packs for,
       | for example, VSCode or Android Launchers and similar?
        
       | notjustanymike wrote:
       | There seem to be some issues with relevance sorting. A search for
       | "Microsoft" yields many "Microsoft" projects before the core
       | "Microsoft" logo. Similar issues with other logos - you'd expect
       | exact match to take precendence.
        
         | astonfred wrote:
         | Thanks for your comment. We'll improve relevancy in the future.
        
       | easytiger wrote:
       | Are these all "hand made" or are they autogenerated in some way?
        
       | s1mon wrote:
       | If this was accurate and legal, it would be super useful. I've
       | worked on countless projects where the client was some large
       | company and needed their official logo on a product. It often
       | takes them a surprising amount of time to dig around and get the
       | logo in its official form.
       | 
       | IANAL, but how is this possibly legal? Assuming it is magically
       | legal, how do we know that the logos are accurate and not just
       | some random person on the internet redrawing the logo from a bad
       | scan?
       | 
       | This is also missing the info which would be in official branding
       | guidelines around the exact PMS colors, and any whitespace
       | requirements. Ideally there would be PMS numbers and sRGB values
       | for each color. In addition to SVG and PNG, exporting in EPS and
       | DXF would be helpful.
        
         | onion2k wrote:
         | _This is also missing the info which would be in official
         | branding guidelines around the exact PMS colors, and any
         | whitespace requirements. Ideally there would be PMS numbers and
         | sRGB values for each color. In addition to SVG and PNG,
         | exporting in EPS and DXF would be helpful._
         | 
         | I can't help thinking that if you care about exact colors and
         | spacing you wouldn't be downloading the logo from a website
         | like this one.
        
         | sudden_dystopia wrote:
         | As far as I know, It's only illegal if you reuse them for
         | commercial purposes. Granted, that is most use cases. But if I
         | wanted to say make a sports team logo vinyl sticker for my own
         | car, that is legal.
        
           | goalie wrote:
           | The typical Fair Use exceptions apply. The primary concern is
           | typically: does it appear that the company using the logo
           | endorses the company represented by the logo?
           | 
           | I'd argue here that it doesn't, but would I risk a lawsuit on
           | it?
        
       | unwiredben wrote:
       | I looked at several logos and saw that they were missing the
       | registered trademark or trademark symbols. Those shouldn't be
       | removed when making the vector versions, as they're part of the
       | logo.
        
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