[HN Gopher] GSuite legacy users can now get a free personal acco...
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GSuite legacy users can now get a free personal account, includes
Gmail
Author : tekni5
Score : 74 points
Date : 2022-05-16 20:56 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| jmull wrote:
| Huh.
|
| Well, I already moved my custom domain email over to fastmail.
|
| Been meaning to for a while anyway... I'd rather pay them a few
| bucks than keep having Google do whatever it was they were doing
| with my email (maybe nothing all that bad, but who the hell
| knows?)
|
| The transition was smooth.
| jacamera wrote:
| I did the same but was already a Fastmail customer. Didn't even
| realize you could add additional domains to an existing account
| without any additional charge. Great service!
| atestu wrote:
| Good things come to those who procrastinate, I guess.
| dageshi wrote:
| Whelp screw me for proactively dealing with the situation I
| guess?
| filmgirlcw wrote:
| This is a relief. I might still move some of my personal domains
| off of GSuite, but the fact that I don't have to is honestly a
| real relief.
|
| And I wouldn't even mind paying. If you wanted to charge me just
| for email without any of the other stuff and not offer support,
| I'd pay $100 a year if you could give me unlimited (or even 25 or
| whatever the original number of email addresses was) separate
| inboxes. But when you insist on charging me $5 or $6 a month per
| address and domain (which for my completely personal use case
| would be $24 a month), and I'm not ever going to use any of the
| other stuff -- then I get annoyed. Especially since I could have
| just set up an alias on a free account, years later, when that
| became an option.
|
| I understand these types of plans keep getting shut down because
| businesses or spammers or moochers abuse them, I do. But a
| personal/family targeted plan for hosted email with a custom
| domain should be something someone can offer that doesn't charge
| people $25 or $30 a month.
| qbasic_forever wrote:
| I seriously doubt GSuite legacy was a huge spam vector. You
| still have to send mail through Google's gmail infrastructure
| and be beholden to all the spam, abuse, etc. mitigations in
| place there. GCE is probably a bigger source of spam with
| people spinning up a VM, cranking out millions of SMTP
| requests, and dipping out.
| advisedwang wrote:
| GCE blocks outbound port 25
| (https://cloud.google.com/vpc/docs/firewalls#blockedtraffic)
| filmgirlcw wrote:
| Well, it wasn't just Google. Microsoft cut out the free
| custom email domain for OneDrive, Zoho cut theirs way down --
| so my feeling is that it had to have been abused in some way,
| even if it wasn't strictly spam.
| interestica wrote:
| Yeah this has been insanity. Really poor communication and
| rollout -- I swear I was one of the last to get notifications
| within email/admin.
|
| I'd gladly pay for the personal service if it wasn't per-user.
|
| Though, I'm sure google got a lot of value out of this. I
| switched myself and many others onto gsuite early on. It was
| some of their first introductions to the "google apps" that
| have now become the structure for their "Workspace".
| trombonechamp wrote:
| 36 hours too late for me - I deleted my 14+ year old GSuite
| account yesterday morning. Oh well, Fastmail seems great so far.
| throwntoday wrote:
| I had been holding off out of laziness but all this does is
| give me more time before I transition to fastmail as well.
| Google is not offering any assurances they won't do something
| similar in the future. And renegging on the free tier I simply
| use for email has left a bad taste.
| exikyut wrote:
| That's definitely within a reasonable deletion windowpz but
| also maybe up against the edge of it - try yelling really
| loudly (tweet @AskWorkspace, ask contacts/friends, etc,
| basically move _now_ ) and you very well might be able to get
| it back.
|
| (I see there's an email address at the bottom of the link in
| your bio FWIW, just in case someone might consider reaching out
| that way)
| jrib wrote:
| I transitioned to fastmail for e-mail and am happy I did. I
| really like google docs and google sheets, but I'm moving off of
| google drive for everything else and just using syncthing.
| nexus7556 wrote:
| Same. I recently moved to iOS and I found the Gmail app to be
| pretty buggy. Staring emails worked about 50% of the time,
| scrolling in HTML emails was very janky, clicking on a
| notification and reading an email didn't mark the email as
| read. This plus the Gsuite transition pushed me to Fastmail. I
| now use that plus the native iOS mail app and I have no
| complaints.
| johndfsgdgdfg wrote:
| We need to rise against Google. Google keeps users hostages for
| more money. It shouldn't be tolerated under any circumstances.
| meibo wrote:
| This is great, but really should've been done in the first place.
| Must've been a major PR oversight/disconnect, no clue how that
| happened.
| htrp wrote:
| I'd like to know what exactly was the decisioning around this as
| it seems like a case study in how not to do product management.
| Nican wrote:
| Probably trying to get rid of people using their service like
| this:
| https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/ufa4v4/google_...
| gushie wrote:
| Perhaps Google just wanted to scare businesses on the legacy
| plan into migrating to the paid service, expecting that those
| who could afford to pay wouldn't leave it to the last minute.
| hacker_newz wrote:
| Why did I have to find this out from Twitter rather than Google?
| floatinglotus wrote:
| I migrated everything to Zoho already. $1 a month is a fair
| price.
| qbasic_forever wrote:
| Just moved my legacy plan over to the 'new' personal use/free
| plan and it seems fine. Good grief how this wasn't the plan from
| the very start is just beyond me. I hope the complete trashing of
| trust and perception with the earliest and most tech connected
| users was worth it, Google.
| pdw wrote:
| I guess you weren't a Google Reader user. Join the club :)
| qbasic_forever wrote:
| Oh I was, and I still have never forgiven them for it lol.
| sputr wrote:
| Load of my shoulders. As much as I hate to be beholden to Google,
| both my parents (in their 70s) use our gsuit account with custom
| domain and migrating them to a different service was ... well,
| you know how it goes. The cost was a bit much.
|
| So thanks Google.
| filmgirlcw wrote:
| Yeah, similar situation here. And yes, trying to explain to
| others how to use a new email system would probably have been
| more expensive than just paying but FFS, Google, way to freak
| out a bunch of kids who have had to be the family IT admin.
| Someone1234 wrote:
| Anyone know if wildcards still work with this? I mostly make up
| domain addresses on the fly e.g. hn@example.com
| grandpoobah wrote:
| Thanks for the unnecessary anxiety Google! I wish I could get
| back the wasted brain cycles spent contemplating how the fuck I
| was going to transition my family to something else.
| bragr wrote:
| I'm seeing that option in my account admin page now too. I'm
| going to confirm mine is for personal use and see how it goes.
| bragr wrote:
| Quick and painless. I don't notice any immediate difference,
| but I only use the core features really. Clicked the button and
| it came back with the following text and that was it:
|
| >You have chosen to continue using the Free Legacy Edition of G
| Suite for personal use.
|
| >If you change your mind and want access to premium features,
| you can take advantage of a special discount by upgrading your
| subscription in the Google Admin Console.
|
| What a self inflicted mess though since this is what should
| have been announced in the first place.
| asd123124 wrote:
| meh. this is _exactly_ what was always available.
|
| The catch is, as soon as you migrate you will lose your gvoice
| number, since that is not included in the "all free services will
| be migrated".
|
| And then it will be too late to research alternatives as you lost
| your number and will start paying (and then realize your old
| number is long gone :)
| benguild wrote:
| What? Where does it say you lose GV
| greyface- wrote:
| I just went through the opt-out process and my Google Voice
| number still works.
| smileybarry wrote:
| Not exactly the same as normal Gmail, this option lets you keep
| using a custom domain at $0/month, which basic Gmail doesn't
| offer. To me it's 100% worth it as that was my main concern
| (with so many accounts bound to my domain email).
| csdvrx wrote:
| What would you recommend to safeguard the number?
| djchen wrote:
| You can transfer your GV number to a consumer Google
| (@gmail.com) account.
|
| https://support.google.com/voice/answer/12083094?hl=en&ref_t.
| .. See the section titled: "Transfer to another Google
| Account (ends in @gmail.com)"
| KerrickStaley wrote:
| Hmm, I already opted in to Google Workspace, even though I only
| use the account for personal use. I wonder if there will be an
| option to switch?
| op00to wrote:
| Same boat, of course not. Google can take a hike.
| theogravity wrote:
| I would love to know this too. Should have waited it out...
| mongol wrote:
| Reddit to the rescue:
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/gsuitelegacymigration/comments/ur5x...
| [deleted]
| fartcannon wrote:
| Stop letting them push you around like this. Leave, never look
| back.
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