[HN Gopher] Networking FreeDOS
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Networking FreeDOS
Author : indigodaddy
Score : 71 points
Date : 2022-05-15 04:31 UTC (1 days ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (wisdomtree.info)
| zh3 wrote:
| For MSDOS (I've dabbled with FreeDOS) the MSNET client works fine
| with Samba (with more recent versions, I understand backward
| compatibility needs to be explicity turned on - same as on
| Windows).
|
| It's a pretty nice way of running old 386/486 DOS boxes diskless;
| install a boot ROM in an NE2000/3C509/Realtek NIC, load DOS and
| map a network drive to the server in autoexec.bat (we use the
| same boxes to diskless boot old linux distros, back in the days
| when linux would run fine in 8Mb).
| snvzz wrote:
| I have network functional in my freedos machines (386, 486,
| Athlon).
|
| Where there's availability of packet drivers (crynwr), it is
| trivial.
|
| No packet drivers makes it a lot harder, but still workable, with
| NDIS drivers. The linked story documents how to do it, and I've
| done it once before. The end result is the same packet driver
| interface, but backed by NDIS + a driver that acts as a proxy of
| sorts.
|
| Ms-kermit is a good way to move data around with just the serial
| port. Once there is a working packet driver in the system,
| Etherdfs. It uses broadcast ethernet frames, thus does not
| require a TCP/IP setup.
|
| This should all also work on ms-dos, but running that
| implementation is less useful today, as freedos 1.3 bumped up the
| compatibility considerably.
| IntelMiner wrote:
| What's the compatibility with Freedos on the whole like? I
| assume DOS as a whole with its sheer "simplicity" means that
| reimplementing it isn't on the whole incredibly difficult
| snvzz wrote:
| In general, stuff just works.
|
| The most problematic I'm aware of is Microsoft Windows,
| particularly 3.11 for Workgroups. These days it works, but it
| still needs a patched kernel AIUI.
|
| There are APIs in the kernel / memory manager that back then
| were not public (documented) and are only used by Microsoft
| themselves.
| teddyh wrote:
| The page links to http://www.crynwr.com/, but the real site seems
| to live at http://crynwr.com/ now.
| shakna wrote:
| The probono page for that site has a modified date, though the
| index doesn't, if anyone was wondering about trying to guess
| the site age. <!-- Created: Wed Mar 3
| 00:26:51 EST 1999 --> <!-- hhmts start --> Last
| modified: Wed Mar 3 00:31:00 EST 1999 <!-- hhmts end
| -->
| mike_hock wrote:
| In true hacker fashion, somebody was hacking away at that
| thing at half past midnight.
| dicknuckle wrote:
| someone needs to set up a CNAME or a redirect.
| adancalderon wrote:
| There is no good DOS client left to support modern
| implementations of SMB now that 1.0 has been removed from most
| modern servers. For a while I was using the MS-DOS Client with
| Samba, I think the new versin of Samba finally took out SMB 1.0
| throw0101a wrote:
| Samba 4.11 disabled it by default, but the code is still around
| as of 4.16:
|
| * https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.16.0.html
| boondaburrah wrote:
| I thought it was taken out by everyone defending against
| WannaCry
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