[HN Gopher] "Blown Away Guy": Iconic music image
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       "Blown Away Guy": Iconic music image
        
       Author : pmoriarty
       Score  : 95 points
       Date   : 2022-05-14 16:37 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
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       | Terry_Roll wrote:
       | The Blown Away Guy campaign did boost Maxell's sales as did their
       | Israelites advert (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clD6J9OmkJI)
       | and The Skids (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gib916jJW1o), they
       | were up against TDK at the time and to be honest the TDK audio
       | cassettes probably just had it.
       | 
       | Sticking with an Audiophile theme, I was surprised to learn its
       | 50yrs of the Technic's SL 1200!?!
       | https://www.technics.com/global/home/sl1200/50th-anniversary...
       | 
       | In the UK in the early 90's you couldn't get these for love nor
       | money, not A stock, not B stock, not C stock because of the
       | Rave/Acid house culture taking off (along with the de'rigueur
       | Stanton cartridge), which is why this
       | (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ZxRs45tTg) will bring back
       | some massive grins for some people! You know who you are! ;)
        
         | TacticalCoder wrote:
         | > Sticking with an Audiophile theme, I was surprised to learn
         | its 50yrs of the Technic's SL 1200!?!
         | https://www.technics.com/global/home/sl1200/50th-anniversary...
         | 
         | I'm trying to fetch one. At 1099 EUR it's kinda a steal: only
         | 100 EUR more than a non-anniversary / unlimited one. And the
         | (non limited) used ones anyway can easily go for 800 EUR.
         | 
         | It's not as epic as the 1995 limited run of 5000 gold-plated
         | units (which, I'm sure, are now worth a little fortune so I'll
         | never have one of these), but at 12 000 units that 50th
         | anniversary run looks like a real bargain and the closest I can
         | get to that 1995 collectible one.
         | 
         | Are you getting one?
        
           | Terry_Roll wrote:
           | I think the MK4's were technically the best on paper but from
           | what I've read they were only sold in Japan. Dont forget
           | things like leaded solder is no longer used today.
           | 
           | Maybe one day but dont have the time for it.
        
         | thunderbong wrote:
         | Your last link is incorrect
        
           | Terry_Roll wrote:
           | I dont understand?
        
             | TacticalCoder wrote:
             | Bicep Glue is relatively recent. It's not from the early
             | 90s: people may not realize they're showing images where
             | insane rave parties took place.
             | 
             | FWIW I've got the original version of Bicep Glue in my car
             | as well as a one hour non-stop repetitive loop. I sometimes
             | listen to that when driving. I love it.
        
               | Terry_Roll wrote:
               | > Bicep Glue is relatively recent. It's not from the
               | early 90s: people may not realize they're showing images
               | where insane rave parties took place.
               | 
               | OIC, yeah, now whilst its not Helter Skelter, Fantazia or
               | something like this
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOMT3bRJXOo I think The
               | Prodigy discography perhaps best mirrors the evolution of
               | the music scene & mood in the UK through this time.
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSTBFZ-To2E
               | 
               | What alot of people dont know is its probably MI5 we have
               | to thank for Ecstasy and the US Army. So the US Army
               | rediscovered it and the spooks flooded the country to
               | stop the fighting on the football terraces (no seating
               | back then) as depicted in films like Football factory,
               | but MI5 will deny it as it also spawned the darker side
               | like the film Essex Boys.
               | 
               | The intro is the interesting bit here:
               | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3931692/
        
       | Kaibeezy wrote:
       | The speaker has to be a JBL L100, right?
        
       | Gunax wrote:
       | I had not seen this before, but I have seen many parodies of it
       | which retrospectively make sense.
       | 
       | I found this collection of some of them:
       | https://youtu.be/hmmcgSgt5_c
       | 
       | When i was a kid, we used to call these 'Simpsons moments'
       | referring to the feeling of seeing the parody before the
       | original. As the Simpsons has many cultural references, but is
       | also popular with kids, many of us who grew up watching it had
       | various 'now I get it' moments.
       | 
       | What's interesting is that's it's not obvious that there is a
       | parody or reference at all if one is not familiar. I remember the
       | Simpsons having terminator, 2001, and many other film references
       | that I would have an aha moment years later when i finally
       | understood it.
        
       | numbers wrote:
       | I've been looking for this for a long time but couldn't put a
       | good description to it since I saw it as a kid.
        
       | drfuchs wrote:
       | Blown-Away Guy may be the most iconic still image, but I'd say
       | the most iconic moving image with sound was the commercial for
       | Memorex cassette tape with Ella Fitzgerald and the "Is it Live,
       | or is it Memorex?" tagline:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeeuT3ciqpI It was so popular,
       | there were various sequels.
        
       | martyvis wrote:
       | Maxwell may have won the tape print ad war, but TDK definitely
       | buried this TV ad in my brain in the 80's. (I think the singer is
       | Aussie, so I wonder if this was also a global commercial).
       | https://youtu.be/W_cH8Wi0Ggo
        
       | omginternets wrote:
       | All these years I thought the company name was Maxwell, not
       | Maxell. I can't be the only one...
        
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         | glouwbug wrote:
         | Berenstain Bears
        
           | omginternets wrote:
           | Exactly!
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | yboris wrote:
         | Internet Comment Etiquette - 'Mandela Effect' ;)
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6cOkZbWZME
        
         | dqpb wrote:
         | Other timeline
        
         | ohyoutravel wrote:
         | Wow no joke I used their cassette and vhs tapes extensively as
         | a child and this is the first moment I realized it was not
         | "Maxwell."
        
       | jordemort wrote:
       | As a teenager, I had a modified version of this hanging on my
       | room; someone had added a yawning cat on top of the speaker, and
       | re-captioned it "Tuna Breath."
       | 
       | Back in my day we walked uphill to school both ways in the snow
       | and bought our memes on paper at Spencer's Gifts.
        
       | JohnJamesRambo wrote:
       | My memories are very fuzzy but I feel like Maxell tapes lived up
       | to the hype and they were better than the usual dreck I had. I'd
       | put my "good stuff" on any Maxell I could find.
        
       | rogual wrote:
       | Also referenced in the Simpsons: https://tenor.com/view/milhouse-
       | simpsons-tv-blasting-thrillh...
        
       | zh3 wrote:
       | As a Bauhaus fan, reading the article was "Eh? It was Peter
       | Murphy" - and then I found it was a different ad in the UK.
        
         | rufus_foreman wrote:
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZUIxGJ-ykI
        
         | smegsicle wrote:
         | nice save at :25
        
       | dylan604 wrote:
       | Oh man, the embedded youtube clip of the spot is priceless in the
       | fact that there is an hiss so dominate in the audio just as if I
       | was listening to one of the discussed Maxell tapes! It had me
       | looking for the NR button.
        
         | danachow wrote:
         | Even with a standard bias tape, with a halfway non shitty deck
         | one could do a little bit better than that though. Linear VHS
         | audio which this clearly is (on an aged tape) has especially
         | bad SNR and response, much worse than a compact cassette. On
         | the other hand, HiFi VHS audio for a time was basically
         | practically the best at home recordable audio format (reel to
         | reel was cool but quite a bit less common).
         | 
         | I'm not sure what speed that tape is running at but I'm going
         | to guess LP, + the effects of age +/- dirty tape heads --
         | someone with too much time on their hands could analyze it and
         | figure it out. It looks like the original ad was shot on 16mm
         | film.
        
           | omginternets wrote:
           | What's NR and SNR?
        
             | aaronbrethorst wrote:
             | noise reduction and signal to noise ratio, presumably.
        
             | mh- wrote:
             | NR = Noise Reduction
             | 
             | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_noise-
             | reduction_system
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_reduction
        
             | danachow wrote:
             | NR is noise reduction. It's the thing that made Dolby a
             | household name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_noise-
             | reduction_system
             | 
             | SNR is signal to noise ratio.
        
               | newsclues wrote:
               | Wasn't surround sound what made Dolby a household name to
               | the later generation?
        
               | chasil wrote:
               | Dolby B Noise reduction was followed by Dolby C some
               | years later. This was visible in the market first, and
               | very prominent to later users of cassettes in HiFi
               | systems.
               | 
               | I still have a deck that implements Dolby B and C, as
               | well as dbx NR.
               | 
               | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_noise-
               | reduction_system
               | 
               | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dbx_(noise_reduction)
        
               | danachow wrote:
               | By the time surround sound was brought about in the 80s,
               | Dolby was already a pretty well recognized brand and the
               | Double D symbol associated with noise reduction on audio
               | cassettes. And it's doubtful whether Dolby would have
               | been around to bring Surround sound to market if it
               | weren't for their success with tape NR.
               | 
               | Adults with disposable income introduced to Dolby
               | Surround in the 80s for their home theater were still
               | commonly using audio cassettes (no other recordable
               | medium in the US really took off until CD-Rs - MiniDiscs
               | had a small following, DAT even smaller and DCC failed
               | completely (and probably just as well)) - so it's not
               | even a later generation. However, it wasn't uncommon for
               | a household to have multiple HiFi systems and maybe a
               | Walkman or two - while Dolby Surround and home theater
               | was comparatively less common.
        
               | newsclues wrote:
               | Sorry later generation of humans.
               | 
               | Between cassette and surround sound there wasn't much
               | brand awareness for people who weren't around for the era
               | of tapes being popular.
               | 
               | As an 80s baby, I had no clue about Dolby tape
               | technology, they are (to me) surround sound as that was
               | becoming a consumer product around when Twister came out.
        
               | dylan604 wrote:
               | That's like saying Apple never created a product before
               | the iPhone, or that MTV never played music videos
        
               | Wistar wrote:
               | Perhaps although I have always associated the name with
               | noise reduction.
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | I'm aware the sound wasn't from a cassette, but it's
           | strikingly ironic to me. Very fitting.
           | 
           | Coincidentally, I used to record a weekend radio show that
           | was on for 6 hours straight on to VHS tape HiFi tracks for
           | playback later without having to flip the cassette.
        
             | danachow wrote:
             | Indeed, was not ragging on your comment. The opposite...
             | now that cassettes are hipster Hi-Fi these days for some
             | dumb reason. Compact cassettes were a fantastic design and
             | set of engineering compromises for their time - a time that
             | has long passed.
        
               | KerrAvon wrote:
               | What's really ludicrous is that you cannot currently buy
               | a new cassette player with good sound quality. With
               | vinyl, you can buy an excellent new turntable if you're
               | willing to throw money at it. You cannot do that with
               | casettes. Utterly pointless.
        
               | dylan604 wrote:
               | Good! There are some things that just need to go away.
               | Cassette tapes, Zunes, Geo Metros, etc.
        
               | Maursault wrote:
               | > now that cassettes are hipster Hi-Fi these days for
               | some dumb reason
               | 
               | That's really ridiculous. But when tracking, I like to
               | give artists the choice of various R2R tape formats, as
               | the technology got really very good before it was
               | abandoned[1], and with it comes one of what are really
               | non-linear effects, tape compression or tape saturation,
               | which happen to sound pretty good when properly executed.
               | Some people really love The Beatles production quality
               | and want even thinner, slower tape.
               | 
               | But I know that's not what you were talking about. Analog
               | tape cassettes iirc had 1/8" width of tape for 2 stereo
               | tracks in opposite directions, basically a half-track
               | stereo tape at 1+7/8ips, so effectively 4 slow mono
               | tracks each 1/32" wide. The wider and faster the tape the
               | better fidelity, so even metal cassettes were very poor
               | quality, even compared to most consumer 1/4" R2R, and
               | especially compared to 16-bit CD audio.
               | 
               | [1] Actually, tape was never completely abandoned, as
               | tape formats are still produced and available, and there
               | are even boutique R2R manufacturers, and even the
               | ridiculously expensive profusely audiophile selections
               | are still somehow compelling.[1a][1b]
               | 
               | [1a]
               | https://thereeltoreelrambler.com/2020/05/16/introducing-
               | the-...
               | 
               | [1b] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc4UgRXD22o
        
         | WalterGR wrote:
         | NR = Noise Reduction
        
       | pfarrell wrote:
       | Another contemporary parody I remember is from the comic Bloom
       | County.
       | 
       | https://www.gocomics.com/bloomcounty/2009/07/27/
       | 
       | (Don't be fooled by the url date, that's just the date gocomics
       | reran it)
        
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