[HN Gopher] Ask HN: Why doesn't Netflix make fewer originals of ...
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       Ask HN: Why doesn't Netflix make fewer originals of higher quality?
        
       Wouldn't they get more subscribers?
        
       Author : amichail
       Score  : 7 points
       Date   : 2022-05-12 21:25 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
       | ThrowITout4321 wrote:
       | There are a few reasons, I think they are trying to expand their
       | catalog as fast as possible so they approved some very iffy
       | content. They were quick to say yes as long as they thought
       | someone would view it.
       | 
       | I attended a preview of a NETFLIX movie similar to Braveheart. It
       | was ok but it was no where near the quality of Braveheart. I
       | think that speaks to the fact that they are just trying to build
       | up content without attention to quality.
       | 
       | Also, the way they measure success is by the number of viewers.
       | That indicates that you have to produce content that reverts to
       | the mean. Rarely is that the best quality. And, the dropping of
       | whole seasons at one time makes it hard for writers to develop
       | characters. So you get some very shallow plots written since you
       | can get that done really quickly.
       | 
       | It also makes it hard for viewers to get attached to the
       | characters. I know I've watched a whole season in less than a
       | week and have felt very unsatisfied. Similar to eating food just
       | because it's available and you're hungry. I feel full and ready
       | for another series. Yet, I barely remember what I saw and have no
       | attachment to any of the characters. What could have been a great
       | series is just a quick snack.
        
       | Someone wrote:
       | I would think quantity is more important than quality, as long as
       | the quality exceeds a threshold that's not particularly high.
       | 
       | Quality might _get_ more subscribers, but they also want to
       | _keep_ them. To do that, there must frequently be something new
       | to see.
        
       | qgin wrote:
       | It's hard to know what will be a success unless it's a
       | rehash/remake. The Netflix strategy is to spend less per
       | production on more productions to give more shots on goal. They
       | can greenlight more productions and take more chances if each one
       | is less expensive.
        
       | themodelplumber wrote:
       | Higher quality means different things to different people though.
       | For one group that loves really classy metaphorical big-picture,
       | slow-burn thrillers, the workaday Virgin River drama is like
       | listening to off-key elevator music. But for Virgin River people,
       | who really live in the workaday fantasy realm, Virgin River is an
       | addiction, if not life itself.
       | 
       | I'd also wonder if part of Netflix's goal is making stuff that's
       | high-enough quality to fit some part of a bell curve. This would
       | mean making a lot of what amounts to low-quality content, to
       | considerable portions of the Netflix audience.
       | 
       | Upping the quality level could then essentially shift the area
       | where Netflix fits the curve, and cause the outflow of a lot of
       | subscribers who perceive that they are paying for more quality
       | than they want or need.
       | 
       | This could imply that your being here and asking this is just
       | part of the way it works, given where you fall on some perceived-
       | quality histogram, if there is such a thing.
        
       | b-team wrote:
       | Why doesn't my stock portfolio have fewer high quality stocks?
        
       | mongol wrote:
       | I believe in the long tail, but I am unsure if it can be catered
       | for by a company like Netflix. Youtube serves it well, but
       | imagine if Netflix produced a drama about systemd? Would you not
       | watch it? I would.
        
       | pjlegato wrote:
       | Most media productions -- almost all -- are not profitable. They
       | don't attract enough viewers to make back their production costs.
       | A few productions are immensely popular and make back many times
       | their production costs.
       | 
       | It's not possible to predict in advance what media will become
       | popular with consumers (and thus profitable.)
       | 
       | Moreover, popularity/profitability does not correlate with
       | production quality at medium and high quality levels. (That is,
       | bad production quality rarely becomes popular. Medium and high
       | quality may or may not become popular, and becoming popular is
       | uncorrelated with production quality.)
       | 
       | Since a) most productions are unprofitable; b) you can't predict
       | which ones will be popular; and c) as long as you're at "medium
       | quality" or above, adding more quality does not improve your
       | chances of being profitable, the optimal strategy for content at
       | scale is to invest in making as many medium-quality productions
       | as possible. The risk involved in making a few high quality
       | productions is much greater.
        
         | amichail wrote:
         | But won't subscribers be annoyed with having to look through so
         | much content to find something they like?
        
           | pjlegato wrote:
           | Yes, a bit. Then they'll eventually be happy when they find
           | something they do like. The recommendation algorithms help.
           | 
           | If it was only a few high quality productions, the chances a
           | consumer ever finds something they like at all is much lower.
        
       | halfdaft wrote:
       | Might be relevant: Netflix's big power clash and rivalries behind
       | the crash - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31274642
        
       | ipspam wrote:
       | I think Netflix killed themselves with the focus group. Mostly
       | mediocrity designed to appeal to a large audience, but satisfying
       | no one.
       | 
       | And don't get me started on the "normalisation" of groups X Y and
       | Z, or the diverse stuff.
       | 
       | Sense8 is a decent example. Had everything including out-of-body
       | mind linked group orgies with every available sexual orientation.
       | Lol! And it was entertaining,
       | 
       | But guess what? Wasn't really that great. Haven't bothered
       | watching season 2 or 3 and probably won't.
        
       | spoonjim wrote:
       | You cannot just spend your way into making higher quality
       | artistic output. You can spend money to get from a $100,000
       | 60-second commercial to a ~$1,000,000 60-second commercial and
       | the difference in output will be immediately visible. But there's
       | no way to achieve the highest levels of artistic achievement just
       | by pumping more money in. It's like finding a jingle writer and
       | telling him you'll give him a billion dollars to write a Beatles-
       | quality album. He just won't be able to.
        
       | handmodel wrote:
       | I'm not sure if this premise is true. At the Emmy's last year
       | they won for The Crown and The Queen's Gambit. Were obviously
       | nominated in plenty of other categories.
       | 
       | I generally prefer HBO Max in that if a new show comes out there
       | is a much higher chance it is something I'll like - though
       | Netflix makes so much more it's probably about even in quantity
       | of shows I like.
       | 
       | My guess is making shows is very expensive and a gamble! Plenty
       | of projects that look good on paper get panned. Plenty of shows
       | that are considered "crap" probably get a huge amount of views
       | against their cost. I still think this is a semi-overlooked
       | problem to have such a large brand, but ultimately tough position
       | to be in.
        
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