[HN Gopher] After roasting Apple about headphone jacks, Google d...
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After roasting Apple about headphone jacks, Google dumps it from
Pixel 6A
Author : prostoalex
Score : 25 points
Date : 2022-05-12 16:30 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| gfrff wrote:
| I feel like there's an adequate market for a phone case with a
| high quality headphone jack, extended battery, sd slot, etc. It
| shouldn't more than double the thickness
| hindsightbias wrote:
| Always copying, never leading.
| rantallion wrote:
| You're talking about Apple, right?
|
| First smartphone, produced by IBM. First portable media player,
| produced by Archos. First tablet computer, produced by
| Cambridge Media.
|
| Apple are infamous for taking someone else's idea, giving it a
| bit more polish, than marketing it as though they came up with
| it in the first place.
| tempnow987 wrote:
| "Apple are infamous for taking someone else's idea, giving it
| a bit more polish, than marketing it as though they came up
| with it in the first place."
|
| This made me laugh. I bought the first iphone - full cash
| price - no contract, no crap.
|
| When I read this stuff you just realize how underestimated
| apple is and was.
| eesmith wrote:
| "Leading" doesn't have to mean "first".
|
| VisiCalc wasn't the first spreadsheet program. It was,
| however, the leading spreadsheet program for a while.
|
| Lotus 1-2-3 wasn't the first spreadsheet program for the PC.
| It was, however, the leading one for a while.
| technofiend wrote:
| The cargo cult stuff is what cracks me up:
| Me: May I tap to pay? Cashier: Yes. Me:
| Great. :pulls out Pixel: Cashier: Oh, is that
| Android? We just take Apple Pay.
|
| Never mind that Google Pay came out first, it's now dubbed
| Apple Pay like Apple invented it _and_ cashiers are convinced
| the NFC reader only works with iPhones. Because Apple,
| apparently.
| tempnow987 wrote:
| Uhh, NFC devices really didn't work with google's service.
| This is not "cargo cult", this is pure and total google /
| android stupidity. Every time you claim it's just cargo
| cult you underestimate apple here.
|
| Google had Google Wallet. Yes, it came out first, but then
| there was android pay. Then there was google pay send. Then
| there was Google Pay - which was a mishmash of chrome
| autofill and an actual app. Internationally its even more
| confusing, especially in india. Google pay picked up
| messaging (!!) explore for personalized ads (ugh). There
| was also peer to peer features.
|
| Then they did a NEW google pay (2020?) that got rid of
| google accounts (!!!) and uses just your phone number, and
| you can't import folks you paid from previous app (!!!!).
| They have a combination of barcodes - 1d and 2d etc etc.
|
| I'm not sure what the latest is. Android Pay taking over?
| Google Pay taking over? Going back to google wallet?
|
| Keep on going on about the apple "cargo cult". I pay
| attention to this space a bit, and even I'm confused.
| prepend wrote:
| Apple Pay was first by about a year (2014 vs 2015). Google
| had a payment product but it was browser based and not
| integrated into phones, didn't work with tap to pay through
| existing nfc chips or anything special.
|
| They seemed to respond to Apple Pay by changing the name
| (of course) to Android Pay. And there were also specific
| payment methods for some manufacturers like Samsung Pay
| also coming out about a year after Apple.
| scarface74 wrote:
| I wonder why Google Pay isn't a household name?
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pay
|
| Maybe because it's the same company that announced three
| messaging apps the same year and has the attention span of
| Dory.
| caycep wrote:
| put it this way - would you have rather walked around with
| the IBM Simon in your pocket, or the original iPhone?
| rgovostes wrote:
| Yes, clearly the iPhone was just an IBM Simon[1] with a "bit
| more polish". Probably took just one or two weeks of
| engineering effort. Unclear why the IBM sold 50k and the
| iPhone sold 6M, perhaps just due to marketing budget?
|
| https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IBM%27s_SweetSpot_sm.
| ..
| gtk40 wrote:
| I mean there was plenty that happened in this space between
| 1992 and 2007. Smartphones were already ubiquitous for
| business users by 2007 but not for general consumers,
| including Blackberry, PalmOS, and Windows Mobile devices.
| As late as 2010 Blackberry was still dominant:
| https://www.comscore.com/Insights/Press-
| Releases/2011/1/comS...
| scarface74 wrote:
| It also had less space than Nomad. No wireless. Lame...
|
| And for the young folks.
|
| https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-
| releases-i...
| Mehringotio wrote:
| Make sure to watch the Google Io from yesterday to see what
| Google actually is about.
|
| Apple makes high quality luxury hardware and that's it.
|
| Google tries to save the world (android, maps, secure by
| default, 24x7 renewable...). Of course overstating a little bit
| as google is still just a company who earns money
| prepend wrote:
| Google is an ad company, Apple is a hardware company. All
| else is marketing.
| CosmicShadow wrote:
| I feel like I'll be stuck never being able to buy a new phone.
| Everyone is removing basic features like headphone jacks and sd
| card slots.
| metadat wrote:
| And tragically, the eventuality is you'll be forced to get a
| new device supporting 5g/6g/Ng in order to retain telco network
| compatibility.
|
| Why do the dominant manufacturers (Apple, Samsung) insist we
| not have a headphone jack and expandable storage? It's starting
| to feel rather stupid and like a huge ripoff.
|
| Wireless headsets are expensive, and after a year or two the
| batteries wear out and the entire thing is junk. What a
| ridiculously high tax on customer wallets over time, not to
| mention the e-waste.
|
| USB-C buds have been 100% crap on my experience. If you have
| recommendations in this department, please do share.
| JoeAltmaier wrote:
| It's a different market today. The mistake would be to stick to a
| 6-year-old decision.
| gjvc wrote:
| I have a Pixel 3 here. It doesn't have a 3.5mm jack either, and
| it's a pity.
| jfengel wrote:
| I spent a lot of time with a Pixel 3, and I'm happy with my Pixel
| 5A. The latter has a headphone jack; the former doesn't.
|
| With my Pixel 3, I replaced the fancy headphones several times,
| at a cost of about $30. I really did like the Google-brand
| headphones (they stay in very well while running), and I didn't
| find it inconvenient to be unable to charge while listening.
|
| But I really like being able to use very cheap earbuds. They
| break or get lost, I buy more. And they're available anywhere,
| while the USB-C ones are a specialty item.
|
| I also use the USB-C port a lot, when I'm driving, and that works
| really well. I never did find a set of bluetooth earbuds that
| worked well enough when I was running.
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