[HN Gopher] Swimlanes for Trello
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Swimlanes for Trello
Author : robinwarren
Score : 71 points
Date : 2022-05-12 11:54 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| nhance wrote:
| Very curious what the path to revenue looks like for this
| robinwarren wrote:
| The plan at the moment is to use this as a lead magnet for our
| main (paid) tool https://www.bluecatreports.com/
|
| But, possibly we will discover some need for features we could
| add to a paid version of this in future.
| n8cpdx wrote:
| People are complaining about Trello being old. I just set one up
| yesterday, because I couldn't find a good casual/flexible
| alternative. And no, I'm not going to set up a whole notion just
| to put cards on a board.
|
| Coming from a place of extreme prejudice against and resentment
| towards Trello, I actually was pleasantly surprised. Not perfect
| but it still works well enough and has enough features to feel
| powerful. It seems like they're adding lots to it, which is maybe
| a mixed bag.
|
| I tried Microsoft Lists - it is broken in Safari (when I press
| the add card button, it doesn't pop up until I interact with the
| user feedback widget). I tried GitHub projects but it was being
| weird and insists on all issues having the same columns. I tried
| Todoist but the story for sharing projects isn't great for
| anonymous users (I need to share in a public meeting for people
| without accounts or desire to set them up). Microsoft Planner is
| offensively bad, and this is coming from a heavily biased office
| fanboy who secretly dreams of someday working on Outlook because
| I'm actually that uncool.
|
| So, what do the cool kids use for semi-structured cards these
| days?
|
| Edit: yes maybe Notion is the answer, trying it is on my to do
| list.
| zze wrote:
| For semi-structured cards, try kanbantool.com - it does not
| require you to follow kanban method, allows for great
| customization of cards, and even has an extensive SDK
| (https://kanbantool.com/developer/sdk) which you can use to
| easily tinker with the board.
| subpixel wrote:
| I tried a bunch of alternatives and wound up paying for premium
| Trello or whatever it's called for the family. Set it up
| thusly:
|
| - an iOS widget that makes capturing things super fast and easy
|
| - an INBOX board where cards land, with lists that are auto-
| populated by card label
|
| - a button to move a card to a THIS WEEK board that has lists
| for each day of the week
|
| - a button to send a card back if it ain't happening this week
|
| - a timeline view that is the reason we pay the insane price,
| but which is indeed very useful
|
| I think it's worth the single-person license. I don't think
| it's worth that for every user, and may downgrade at the end of
| my annual license.
|
| I hope they don't muck it up with feature creep, but the polish
| they have put on Trello is quite nice.
| jonpurdy wrote:
| I already posted below*, but I actually tried this out.
|
| It doesn't add swimlanes to Trello the way you'd expect. It opens
| up a new view which looks like Trello, but seems to be totally
| custom. So you can only see the swimlanes in this view, but not
| using Trello normally.
|
| Not sure if I'm missing something but this is a non-starter for
| me.
|
| * - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31354174
| Msw242 wrote:
| Why this over like... Even notion?
| bayindirh wrote:
| Because it's old (over 10 years old), works well, battle tested
| and practical.
|
| Trello allows for great collaboration and informal planning,
| even for daily life and for a single person. It allows
| capturing great deal of information under a card and showing a
| great deal of information without overloading your senses.
|
| So, in short, "It works (TM)", and works well.
| Spivak wrote:
| If those are your pros for Trello then you probably would
| love Notion. Cards are just pages which can capture anything.
| bayindirh wrote:
| Thanks for the offer. :)
|
| Actually I have an integrated system which enables me to
| collaborate with many people on Trello, and my knowledge
| base is on Evernote for a very long time now.
|
| I consider moving from working systems to other stuff just
| because it's new and hip harmful.
| ChildOfChaos wrote:
| I hate notion, it's really for documents.
|
| Trello is much better for lists and Kanban boards. The UI just
| works a lot better than Notion which is just a mess and ugly
| for such uses.
| lukasb wrote:
| UX feels better - Trello is faster and more lightweight than
| Notion.
| adwww wrote:
| Isn't it the other way around - Trello has been around and used
| for informal project planning for years before Notion became
| trendy.
| paul1664 wrote:
| Not everyone Notions. For everyone else... Jira.
| davidashe wrote:
| I thought simplicity was Trello's differentiating feature?
|
| I don't use Trello often, but this strikes me as the JIRA-
| ification of Trello being underway.
|
| Others don't seem to agree though.
| ed wrote:
| This is a 3rd-party add-on, not a native Trello feature.
| davidashe wrote:
| right, good call
| Steltek wrote:
| While I haven't tried these swim lanes (or Trello since
| acquisition), I agree with you. Trello was about simplicity and
| being the anti-Jira. I don't see swimlanes as an absolute must-
| have that's in keeping with how Trello was built.
|
| I think there will always be a group praising the addition of
| features. That's how all Enterprise software gets to be the way
| it is. Every "I won't buy it because I need $checkbox_feature"
| begets a meeting between sales and engineering to see how fast
| it could be implemented.
| XCSme wrote:
| Why does it require access to all my workspaces and access to
| post comments as me?
| dazbradbury wrote:
| It does seem that the trade-off generally between handing a 3rd
| party access to content vs. improved functionality provided by
| plugins is rarely worth it. This not only applies to Trello but
| many other work/productivity tooling where the content is
| generally sensitive - eg. Slack, Trello, Gmail etc.
|
| I'd be curious to know how many people work at companies that
| allow 3rd party plug-ins for these kinds of tools.
| robinwarren wrote:
| Trello don't allow any more fine grained access than this.
| Power-ups can request view and write access and that is about
| it. No way to say we only want access to the current board or
| etc. Or that we only want to be able to update labels/members
| but not add comments.
|
| They have been talking about changing that, but I understand it
| is complex and never really becomes a priority
| micheljansen wrote:
| The lack of swimlanes was a reason for me to not use Trello
| before. Very nice.
| sieabahlpark wrote:
| Now you can subject yourself to terrible billing from Atlassian
| Ron1999 wrote:
| One can only wonder why had it taken so long. it's not novel or
| new, just a simple usability improvement that really makes you
| question - Was it there from the day-1 roadmap and just wasn't
| implemented? Are we starting to see the decline of the extremely-
| poor-UX-friendly flat trend?
|
| glad to see a step in the right direction, hopefully 90's cloths
| comeback will go in the same path.
| robinwarren wrote:
| I think this was a deliberate move from the Trello team not to
| implement this. They were very much focussed on the "not
| developers" market and didn't want to implement features which
| were mostly only of interest to a developer audience. It seemed
| to work quite well for them commercially :)
| jonpurdy wrote:
| I think swimlanes is a feature that benefits everybody, not
| just developers. At a most basic level, swimlanes by assignee
| would be crucial for a family board (as opposed to coloured
| cards by assignee, since colours could be used for category
| of task, etc.).
|
| So I used Trello at home, and Jira at work. I loved how fast
| Trello was (despite being Electron); it's still probably the
| fastest Electron/web app.
|
| But the lack of swimlanes pushed me to Favro, which was too
| slow to enjoy using. When Atlassian bought Trello I figured
| that swimlanes would never arrive, since they wouldn't want
| to eat into Jira features and market share (which i disagree
| with, but I digress).
|
| As a result I use Trello casually and for simple projects
| with my wife, but didn't go all-in on it. I'll give this
| Power Up a try though!
| mab122 wrote:
| So this adds swimlines like they were for a long time in
| https://wekan.github.io/ ?
| [deleted]
| Spivak wrote:
| Wekan is wild, it's a great project but it's downfall used to
| be that it was a worse version of Trello. But now that
| Atlassian has atlassianed all over it Wekan is now "Trello back
| when it was still good." It's a joy to use.
| KennyBlanken wrote:
| Kanboard has had swim lanes for years, too.
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