[HN Gopher] Creating a Culture of Innovation
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       Creating a Culture of Innovation
        
       Author : fagnerbrack
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2022-05-08 09:28 UTC (13 hours ago)
        
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       | spaetzleesser wrote:
       | Whenever I read or listen to such interviews I want to hear what
       | the people working in these organizations are thinking. Usually
       | there is a huge mismatch between reality and what these managers
       | are presenting.
        
       | hallqv wrote:
       | The irony of having someone from SAP talking about creating a
       | innovative culture
        
         | wslh wrote:
         | It is not irony, they are looking for something they don't have
         | to complement SAP.
        
       | classified wrote:
       | Whenever someone says "innovation", I hear "change for change's
       | sake". There has to be a reason why they don't call it
       | "improvement", "adaptation", or anything else with actual
       | meaning.
        
         | mattwest wrote:
         | Innovation shares the latin "nov" with novel. Innovation is
         | different from improvement or adaptation based on a subjective
         | idea of how different and novel it is.
        
       | troelsSteegin wrote:
       | Innovation here is higher-risk product discovery - the design of
       | new mechanisms to extract value with low assurance that things
       | will actually work well. The emphasis here is that managing
       | innovation is explicitly about managing risk - methodically
       | considering and communicating risk to stakeholders, "failing
       | gracefully and fast". Egger from SAP references assessing budding
       | products in terms of "desirability, feasibility, viability",
       | which is a design thinking thing [0]. A win an innovation program
       | is when you don't over commit to risk. You put some resources
       | into a program, at some phase assess risk per some rubric, and go
       | on the the next stage or not.
       | 
       | He makes the point that in spite of having an innovation
       | function, you want an innovation culture: "But what you really
       | want to do is not have an innovation team. You just want to have
       | people who are focused on willing difficult projects into
       | existence, and de-risking those projects. And so in an ideal
       | world, what a company, personally, what I believe it should
       | strive towards is help the bigger organization to get good at
       | product discovery themselves, and not lead innovation or be the
       | "innovation office", but rather then be the steward who helps to
       | incorporate new methodologies and help them to get better at de-
       | risking. "
       | 
       | [0] https://designthinking.ideo.com/
        
         | splittingTimes wrote:
         | What is a good approach to enable workers on the ground to
         | "willing difficult project into existence in a bigger corp?
         | 
         | Typically, ground workers (devs) plate is overflowing with
         | work, coming from product management which are just increments
         | or maintenance of existing products.
         | 
         | There is not much Slack build into the daily processes to allow
         | for rough ideation, concretization and much less
         | implementation/prototyping.
         | 
         | Other then allow for a certain amount of dev time to go into
         | innovation (a la googles Friday off for personal project) i
         | can't think of much.
         | 
         | What is a good percentage of dev time to go into innovation
         | 10%, 25%, ...?
         | 
         | Second question: how do you derisk?
        
       | milosmns wrote:
       | Maybe we could organize a discussion panel with genuinely
       | interested SAP leaders?
       | 
       | Something like... _" what SAP sees as innovative vs. the products
       | we have to use today"_
       | 
       | and try to find some middle ground?
        
       | npalli wrote:
       | I found the title of the speaker sort of ironic. Doesn't bode
       | well for someone trying to create a culture of innovation.
       | 
       | "Head of Innovation Office and Strategic Projects at SAP Business
       | Process Intelligence"
        
         | CharlesW wrote:
         | How do you feel that it's ironic?
        
       | civilized wrote:
       | I'm tired of innovation worship. Novelty is not the solution to
       | all problems. In fact, most new ideas are terrible and a big
       | distraction, especially new ideas that are sold primarily on
       | their novelty.
       | 
       | We should care more about adaptability, about understanding and
       | productively responding to our conditions. Sometimes the best
       | response is to stay the course or reuse an old solution.
        
         | rubidium wrote:
         | From the transcript " I would say 99% of the change that
         | creates value is incremental change, and we're just adopting
         | faster and better ways of doing stuff. "
         | 
         | No one is doing innovation worship here.
        
           | civilized wrote:
           | I'm glad that they are sensible if you wade through this
           | transcript. It'd be nice if they used descriptive terms
           | consistent with their message, rather than reaching for
           | fashionable cliches.
        
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