[HN Gopher] Inkdrop: Organizing your Markdown notes made simple
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Inkdrop: Organizing your Markdown notes made simple
Author : memorable
Score : 59 points
Date : 2022-05-06 12:46 UTC (1 days ago)
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| snth wrote:
| Jesus- a subscription fee for a Markdown editor?
| iamcreasy wrote:
| From the website:
|
| Q: Why a subscription? A: Because lifetime pricing is not
| sustainable. We know there are similar apps with lifetime
| pricing out there, but it doesn't work for long-running
| business. The sustainability is crucial especially for note-
| taking apps because you will store a lot of notes in them day
| by day.
|
| Q: $5 per month is too expensive. A: It is for professional
| use, not targeted to the mass of people. We believe it would
| improve your productivity worth more than $5. This is the price
| we would pay as a user.
|
| Q: If lowered the pricing, you would get more customers. A: We
| would like to provide good, quick and warm user support. If we
| got a lot of users, we won't be able to support them all.
| orasiscore wrote:
| Hmmmm its something
| FalconSensei wrote:
| Cloud sync + 10gb storage space comes with a cost
| lorenzfx wrote:
| If you live in the Apple ecosystem you could use something
| like FSNotes and icloud for 7$ for FSNotes plus 1$/month for
| icloud.
| spicybright wrote:
| But it's certainly not $5/mo. Something in the ballpark of
| $10/yr would be better.
|
| I can buy a private VPS for $20/yr with 30gb of storage and
| slap sync thing on it, and find an existing markdown editor
| if I wanted.
|
| That could easily pay for itself with 4 users. And that's
| just scraping the bottom of the barrel of low cost servers.
|
| Yes not everyone can set up a server, and yes this takes the
| burden off spending time doing that. But your average
| software engineer with some server knowledge could set this
| up in a day.
|
| The value proposition is just not there.
| 20after4 wrote:
| In a day? I'd think closer to an hour than a day to set up.
| eternityforest wrote:
| I like Obsidian+SyncThing
| un3n wrote:
| Yeah I'm with you. I just can't get over 5/mo for an editor &
| 10gb of notes storage when I get 15g free through google.
| tylersmith wrote:
| Some people prefer to pay their services directly. I would
| rather pay someone to host my notes, and to build/maintain
| the infrastructure to host my notes, than hope Google keeps
| finding it profitable to give me costless storage.
| [deleted]
| thumbcore wrote:
| Joke's on you, I use AsciiDoc
| crooked-v wrote:
| Yet another subscription-based editor app that... doesn't seem to
| add anything significant compared to all the other subscription-
| based editor apps.
|
| And since it can't operate off the file system, you can't even
| painlessly switch to the inevitable next subscription-based
| editor app.
| FinnKuhn wrote:
| I would honestly just use something like notable and sync the
| files over any cloud service.
|
| notable: https://notable.app/
| NocturnalKart wrote:
| nathias wrote:
| isn't the point of making your notes in markdown that you have it
| in a simple file and use your file manager to manage notes ...
| loloquwowndueo wrote:
| Vimwiki is just the thing for markdown note taking for us command
| line curmudgeons , and the resulting "wiki", just a collection of
| interlinked markdown files, happens to be compatible with
| Obsidian for those times I need a graph visualization.
| lorenzfx wrote:
| I'm also always coming back to vimwiki after trying something
| else (mostly because I'm so used to (n)vim). I still want to
| give zk [1] a try though (but it's also vim based).
|
| The one killer feature for me would be a gui for neovim that
| can display images. (Inserting images from the clipboard works
| with clipboard-image.nvim.)
|
| [1] https://github.com/mickael-menu/zk/
| qwerty456127 wrote:
| There already is quite a market of note taking and organizing
| apps and Markdown editors. How is this one better than the rest
| of them? I always am curious because none is actually perfect.
| For any given app in this genre I can suggest dozens of
| improvements. This means there always is a real chance another
| one is going to be better.
| QuikAccount wrote:
| If I recall this is written by 1 guy in Japan. Tried it a while
| back and it was very nice although I wouldn't subscribe at that
| price I tried it at and would rather just buy Sublime. Seems it
| went down from $10ish to $5 which is more reasonable. The dev
| also maintains a blog that I find pretty neat
| https://blog.inkdrop.app/
| aldens wrote:
| He also has a great youtube channel where he posts devlog type
| stuff: https://www.youtube.com/c/devaslife
| tranquilmind wrote:
| bobuk wrote:
| Inkdrop and Obsidian both have the same issue for me - electron.
| I will not tire of recommending people FSnotes [1]. Native
| (mac/ios only), opensource, one time payment (if you want it),
| sync with iCloud, git and TextBundle support.
|
| Not affiliated, just a big fan.
|
| [1]: https://fsnot.es/
| hokumguru wrote:
| Isn't inkdrop React Native? The maker has a quite nice YouTube
| channel where he writes RN and contributes regularly to RN open
| source.
| nguyenkien wrote:
| Desktop app use electron.
| themadturk wrote:
| Though I usually feel the same, Obsidian is one of the lightest
| and most responsive Electron apps I've ever used. (Not using it
| anymore, because I didn't like on mobile.)
| zmix wrote:
| On mobile (Android) I use 'Markor' (it's on F-Droid), which
| is a notetaking application for Markdown, that understands
| folder hierarchies as notebooks and thus is compatible with
| Obsidian on the desktop. I use Syncthing to sync.
| lelandfe wrote:
| It's still _very clear_ that it 's not a native Mac
| application. All the classic Electron issues are present:
|
| - Close the main window and try to figure out how to get it
| to reopen. This is probably the reason Cmd-W doesn't actually
| close the window (unlike every other app).
|
| - macOS menubars are still just empty defaults. All
| functionality is exposed in custom in-app menus, rendering it
| all undiscoverable through the Cmd-? search.
|
| - Wonky context menus that don't follow macOS standards. E.g.
| right click on a note and type the first letter of the action
| you want. Result: nothing.
|
| - Weird, cross-platform verbiage litters the app. E.g. "open
| in system explorer" instead of "open in Finder"; some hotkey
| tooltips say "Ctrl/Cmd," while others use the Cmd symbol
| "[?]"
|
| - Horrendous focus styling and keyboard support - they've
| cast out all the good native functionality here. Try Tab-bing
| around the app and attempt to figure out what's focused. This
| is so much worse than most Electron apps, as Chromium's a11y
| is typically a big cachet.
|
| Gosh, I could keep going. It's a terrific app, and this is
| all fixable, but boy does Obsidian wear those Electron
| origins on it's sleeves today.
| sieabahlpark wrote:
| Wow, a Mac and ios exclusive app that I can't use on my android
| or Windows machine!
|
| So incredibly useful to me since I don't own a Mac at all, nor
| any iphone. Perhaps if you considered that people use other
| operating systems you'd see why your solution is a nonstarter
| and electron will continue to dominate the area?
| npigrounet wrote:
| lorenzfx wrote:
| The space of markdown based note taking apps is getting more and
| more crowded. I'm wondering how many more are sustainable,
| especially as many free (and open source) ones are available.
|
| Regarding Inkdrop: this page really doesn't tell me what's their
| USP, why would I use this over something like Obsidian or Roam
| (just to name some examples)?
| taesu wrote:
| I use github for this.
| williamstein wrote:
| There is a typo on the landing page. The screenshot on the right
| says "two-clumn" instead of "two-column".
| withinboredom wrote:
| I absolutely love Inkdrop. Its pretty much my go-to drafting
| editor. I like that it doesn't spellcheck or grammar check by
| default -- perfect for drafts where you just need to get your
| ideas down and before editing.
|
| I used to use gists, but my browser wanted to spellcheck me all
| the darn time. I just want to write with a bit of sensible
| formatting, no distractions.
| notum wrote:
| As cool as this looks I can never see myself placing something as
| important as my notes in a closed source app under a locked-in
| vendor.
|
| https://joplinapp.org/ does the trick for me, Synology NAS makes
| sure notes are copied over to multiple devices at any given time.
| rPlayer6554 wrote:
| I love Joplin but the Android app really needs an update. It's
| missing a lot of important features that are available on
| desktop.
| elondaits wrote:
| What I don't feel comfortable with from generic file sync
| solutions is the uncertain conflict resolution handling.
|
| At least with Evernote (far from perfect) I get a dialog
| informing me a conflict was found and it keeps both versions
| allowing me to do a manual merge.
| dexterdog wrote:
| Synching does that and is open source. I use obsidian and
| synching to keep everything synced from my laptop to my phone
| and server.
| spicybright wrote:
| Can attest. Any conflict it can't resolve, it'll add the
| other version it's comparing and append "(Conflict from
| 5/7/20 1:00pm)" or something to it's name.
|
| Not saying it's bullet proof, but I've never lost anything
| before.
| kqr wrote:
| I was a very early adopter and there was a time when it
| hit race conditions that somehow caused it to delete all
| files in a shared directory.
|
| ...that has not happened in the last few years, despite
| my intensified usage.
| christkv wrote:
| It uses couch db with it's conflict resolution system. I
| think you can even bring your own couch db instance
| lelandfe wrote:
| What risks do you see coming from using a closed source app for
| your notes? Backups look pretty good, FWIW:
| https://docs.inkdrop.app/manual/backing-up-your-data
| Joe_Boogz wrote:
| I have always been a fan of markdown editors. A few years back I
| tried inkdrop and really enjoyed it. At the time it was a fair
| bit more expensive. Seems the developer listened to feedback and
| lowered the price. Kudos to them.
|
| That being said, there are free alternatives like Obsidian that
| are really great. Sync with your favorite cloud provider you are
| already paying for. Sync with Git. Lots of plugins.
| IceWreck wrote:
| > open source alternatives like Obsidian
|
| Obsidian is not open source. Its free for offline use, but
| thats about it.
| Joe_Boogz wrote:
| Thank you for noting this. I edited my comment which was
| originally meant to bring up that it's free rather than open
| source.
| jq-r wrote:
| Also bloated in my experience, and has confusing navigation.
| Using insider's version of Notable and quite enjoying it.
| Wish it had a mobile version, but I guess you can't have
| everything.
| throwaway675309 wrote:
| I actually find obsidian is one of the nicer electron-based
| apps, up there with the likes of vs code.
|
| Didn't find it bloated at all as it contains mostly
| functionality directly related to notes. The ability to
| support community driven JS plug-ins is just icing on the
| cake and search is blazing fast. I've got 10,000 notes in
| there and I can search through all of them using full and
| partial text search in less than a second.
|
| Fascinating how we had such a completely different user
| experience.
| phren0logy wrote:
| Have you tried Logseq? Might be more your style, but could
| also be too bloated.
| jq-r wrote:
| I might give it a go thanks.
|
| I just love Notable due to it's simplicity and
| performance. The UI looks just right, every note can have
| it's own tab, there are no themes for now (apart from
| light and dark one), but they are nice and contrasty, the
| keyboard shortcuts are just right, the app is fast and
| responsive. I don't need anything more. Fabio (the
| author) knows whats he's doing and I like that he
| respects his users. Obsidian is more like: lets throw
| everything we can think of in, damned the performance,
| UI, or usability. The only good thing I can say is that
| I've managed to get both of them to play well together in
| iCloud Drive (or any "cloud" drive would be fine). So on
| my computers I use Notable, and on mobile devices I have
| Obsidian to edit the same notes.
| nvrspyx wrote:
| I believe the developer of Notable is working on a mobile
| version.
| wodenokoto wrote:
| Offline, non-commercial use. You cannot use Obsidian for work
| related notes unless you pay
| riidom wrote:
| They seem to have changed that recently, though it's not
| obvious from the pricing table. Under /eula it says:
|
| "You need to pay for Obsidian if and only if you use it for
| revenue-generating, work-related activities in a company
| that has two or more people."
|
| Not sure how to read that if you are, let's say, a
| freelancer. My guess is you are a one-man "company" and the
| other company is your customer?
| TuringTest wrote:
| For those who don't know it: you have logseq as a true open
| source competitor of Obsidian.
|
| Although it's not as much an _editor_ as an _outliner_ ;
| notes are strongly hierarchical, and it's difficult to use
| for writing plain markdown files. But that shouldn't be a
| problem if your main need is note-taking.
| emptyparadise wrote:
| We're about to have another week of people posting note taking
| apps. Always a fun exercise.
| mikebos wrote:
| Right let's not forget https://noteplan.co
| themadturk wrote:
| Notepad++, one long markdown file with dates as top-level
| headings.
| SilvanCodes wrote:
| Let's add https://supernotes.app/ to the list right away. :p
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