[HN Gopher] Dude, Where's My Fuel?
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Dude, Where's My Fuel?
Author : rmcginnis
Score : 18 points
Date : 2022-05-04 18:53 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.prometheusfuels.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.prometheusfuels.com)
| Manuel_D wrote:
| This seems like a plan that's contingent on the moonshot of
| extremely cheap and scalable carbon capture. So far, effective
| carbon capture has remained elusive. "Carbon offsets" really
| means signing papers where a country says "we would have cut down
| this forest, but we won't now that you paid us." Actually taking
| carbon out of the atmosphere and burying it is the stuff of
| prototypes.
| ncmncm wrote:
| Maybe, _just maybe_ , they understand the actual business they
| are actually in better than you do?
| tedmcory77 wrote:
| I'm really rooting for your company Rob. Your lean approach to
| execution and keeping focused on what matters really give me hope
| you'll be successful.
| johngalt wrote:
| Prometheus should be laser focused on being first to market in
| commercial quantities. There are people who want carbon neutral
| fuels today even if they are more expensive than fossil fuels.
| Capture that entire market with v1 of the process even if it's
| $10/gallon. Take everything learned to make v2 at $7/gallon and
| v3 at $5/gallon etc...
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| The goal of $3/gallon is pushing Prometheus down the rabbit hole.
| Waiting for the perfect factory, with the manufacturing methods,
| to produce the perfect machine that will immediately go into
| large scale production, and operate on an automated basis. I
| expect the company aiming at 10-7-5-3 will reach 3 there faster
| than the company aiming at 3 to start out with.
| nyokodo wrote:
| > Capture that entire market with v1 of the process even if
| it's $10/gallon. Take everything learned to make v2 at
| $7/gallon and v3 at $5/gallon etc...
|
| Due to Russian oil drying up volatile high prices globally will
| be the norm until technology like this comes into play and at
| least puts a ceiling on the price. So, the real question is how
| quickly and how cheaply can they reach 4 million barrels per
| day of production?
| usrn wrote:
| All I get is a loading animation.
| ncmncm wrote:
| Me too. If I turn on some Javascript, I get just a logo and a
| hamburger symbol on a black screen. If I click on the hamburger
| symbol, it turns into a big "X" still on a black screen.
| sdkgjajggaf wrote:
| This page is completely unreadable due to the lagging custom
| scrolling they added. Just make a regular web page please.
| PaulHoule wrote:
| I wouldn't call Fischer-Tropsch a "high temperature" process at
| least compared to other processes that run at an oil refinery. A
| big problem with it (unless you're making methane) is that high
| temperatures break hydrocarbons down.
|
| Low temperature processes run at a low rate so you have a huge
| machine and large quantities of catalysts tied up to make just a
| trickle of fuel.
|
| Nice to see the F-T process bypassed because the high capital
| cost makes it the last refuge of the desperate.
| adultSwim wrote:
| Can someone explain how this is carbon neutral? It sounds like it
| produces regular gas, but using electricity instead of extracting
| petroleum. Wouldn't burning the gas produced still be a problem?
| gnulinux wrote:
| They catch CO2 from air. They make fuel only from this and
| electricity. Then once someone burns the fuel, it produces the
| same or less CO2.
| chrisbigelow wrote:
| They acquire the carbon using direct air capture[1]
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| [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_Fuels#:~:text=The%
| 2....
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