[HN Gopher] Making the Clubhouse hallway more relevant with mach...
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Making the Clubhouse hallway more relevant with machine learning
Author : domino
Score : 31 points
Date : 2022-05-04 17:56 UTC (5 hours ago)
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| tosh wrote:
| The initial approach for the hallway was simple and reasonable.
| I'm looking forward to how the machine learning approach will
| play out. Improving relevancy on the hallway is definitely a
| worthwhile pursuit. Might even make a great kaggle challenge.
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| Intuitively I would replace the hallway with a feed of recordings
| (+ occasional featured live rooms, basically the opposite of the
| current hallway). While this would de-emphasize the live aspect
| of the app it would I think help to increase relevancy. That
| said: I'm sure the team has put more thought into it than I did.
| VWWHFSfQ wrote:
| Looks like we're at the "personalized recommendations based on
| extensive user behavioral tracking" phase now. I think every
| aspiring social app gets here eventually and in my opinion it's
| ultimately what ruins the whole thing.
| tablespoon wrote:
| > Looks like we're at the "personalized recommendations based
| on extensive user behavioral tracking" phase now. I think every
| aspiring social app gets here eventually and in my opinion it's
| ultimately what ruins the whole thing.
|
| Yeah, personalization like that is one of those things that
| seems superficially appealing but at best just undermines the
| tool's usefulness with a solipsistic tendency.
| hkt wrote:
| > solipsistic tendency
|
| Beautifully put. The idea that a social network should be
| personalised is.. well it is as crazy as expecting any social
| setting to be personalised, really.
| vmception wrote:
| Hey Clubhouse, the longer the profile bios are for your remaining
| users, the less important any of them are. You won't be able to
| get the important people back.
|
| Just like an actual exclusive clubhouse, the promoters and
| celebrities have moved on and you're left with a void of less
| connected people late to every trend, or those that are
| completely undiscerning. People that fail at status seeking
| behavior and people that don't care.
|
| For a place with the name Clubhouse, alongside the initial
| rollout that was filled with promoters and celebrities, I think
| this is failure and its time to rebrand.
| w1nk wrote:
| Hello whomever from clubhouse is promoting this blog post on the
| internet. Looking forward, please consider adding more technical
| depth to the content.
|
| This is meant to be a technical blog post and the only technical
| description of the system/model pipeline involves telling us its
| a GBDT. That's unfortunately probably the least interesting thing
| you could pick out to say about such a recommender.
|
| The content briefly touches on real time features and building a
| feature store. Tell us about that. Tell us about how you measured
| the improvement of adding near real time features. Explain how
| this stateless microservice scales horizontally. Tell us about
| tail latencies while ranking hundreds of rooms for a user. Just
| something.
| rchaud wrote:
| Clubhouse reminds me of 2018 when a lot of PR went into trying to
| make voice search and Alexa Skills a thing.
|
| Of course Twitter Spaces took the wind out of their sails, but
| what purpose does Clubhouse serve besides being a broadcast
| megaphone for the already internet-popular 5% of people. Is
| everyone else supposed to just be the audience, or attempt to
| chase clout themselves?
| yreg wrote:
| I'm happy that the Clubhouse format hasn't caught on.[1]
|
| - I hated listening to discussions at specific times and having
| to schedule my time around it, missing out when something
| happened in another time zone, etc.
|
| - I hated not being able to rewind when I misunderstood
| something, not being able to pause and think, not being able to
| return to something afterwards for reference.
|
| - I hated the inaccessibility of it.
|
| For audience participation I much prefer a podcast which is
| recording with a live chat room or a twitch stream that is saved
| as a VoD.
|
| I don't think this trend of making content available only
| temporarily (seen also in Instagram/Facebook stories) is even
| good for privacy - if it makes people feel they can share
| something they normally wouldn't.
|
| [1] I know about Twitter Spaces, but I haven't come across any
| yet. When Clubhouse came, suddenly everything around me was
| happening on Clubhouse.
| rozap wrote:
| I don't generally root for things to fail, but this one was so
| obviously user hostile in terms of UX and manufactured
| exclusivity that I'm really glad it's over.
| teraku wrote:
| I'm sorry but I think Clubhouse is dead
| JumpCrisscross wrote:
| Are there any public runway estimates for Clubhouse?
| rvz wrote:
| I will give them 10 years maximum to either shut down or get
| acquired by private equity at a lesser valuation or even less
| than 10 years if Clubhouse and their VCs decide to do a down-
| round due to their ridiculous and unjustifiable valuation. [0]
|
| Which ever comes first.
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| [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25883362
| dominotw wrote:
| Not sure but recuiter reached a out to me last week from
| clubhouse. I was surprised to see clubhouse was still around.
| throwaway1777 wrote:
| They raised over 100M. I'm sure they haven't blown ALL of it
| yet... but it's gonna be hard for them to raise more I
| imagine.
| TrevorJ wrote:
| I'm not keep up on these things much anymore but around
| maybe...4-5 months ago Clubhouse seemed to be the new
| hotness. What happened?
| boringg wrote:
| Content quality << Amount of people. Couldn't sustain
| itself. One giant spam fest.
|
| Would for sure want some clubhouse swag though .. anyone
| got any?
| mihaela wrote:
| They opened to everybody too soon.
| runako wrote:
| Twitter released their Clubhouse clone, Spaces. Serves
| essentially the same function, but is native to Twitter
| so one less app to download. Hosts have incentive to use
| Spaces because Twitter allows accounts with larger
| followings to charge admission to Spaces.
|
| Clubhouse could be at feature parity now, but for
| existing Twitter users, there's very little reason to
| start replicating their networks on Clubhouse.
| username_my1 wrote:
| Clubhouse tanked before Twitter spaces were a thing
|
| Both companies missed the mark here
| hkt wrote:
| I really didn't want to snark at this: I wanted to see something
| technical and interesting. But it turns out putting "clubhouse"
| and "relevant" in a sentence together ended exactly as I
| expected.
| tapper wrote:
| And the hall way is still shit! This app has so menny bugs. They
| can never leve things the same and let people just use the app.
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