[HN Gopher] Intelligent speed assistance: everything you need to...
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Intelligent speed assistance: everything you need to know
Author : SQL2219
Score : 19 points
Date : 2022-05-03 11:48 UTC (1 days ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.autocar.co.uk)
| jaywalk wrote:
| What a bunch of absolute trash. Especially when it's inevitably
| mandated to be permanently enabled in a few years. Amazing how
| the EU constantly finds new ways to run their subjects lives.
| Terry_Roll wrote:
| This is why I plan to move to Germany where the autobahns are
| unrestricted!
| donclark wrote:
| TLDR - Associated with cars - "tech that can automatically curb
| your car's speed to the prevailing limit"
| esteth wrote:
| Lots of crying in the comments over an EU mandate which says in
| its opening pages that the limiter must be able to be disabled by
| the driver. If you don't like it, just turn it off.
| maxander wrote:
| There's no sign that you'll be able to turn it off in the car
| ahead of you, though.
| bob1029 wrote:
| Lots of "optional" things one would have to explicitly disable
| these days. It's never a persistent setting either. You are
| universally forced to turn these things off every time you get
| into the car and start it.
| mwint wrote:
| Lots of things start optional before becoming mandates.
|
| The slippery slope is real.
| metacritic12 wrote:
| Autocar here starts by complaining that the "intelligent speed
| assistance" has been maligned as "speed limiters". But upon
| reading the article further, that's exactly what it is.
|
| When a neutral party says "speed limiter" to me, I immediately
| think of the actual technology here.
|
| When the article started out with "intelligent speed assistance",
| I thought this might be a cool feature that let my car go
| _faster_ safely. At most, I thought the tech might be something
| that does increase safety by warning about sharp turns, but at
| least could give the car ability to handle faster speeds.
|
| But on reading the article, it seems like there's nothing
| intelligent about it other than it's ability to read road signs
| and force you to slow down.
|
| "Intelligent speed assistance" is indeed the Orwellian term. If
| the article wasn't written with such earnestness I would have
| thought it to be a parody.
| toast0 wrote:
| Yeah, intelligent speed assistance would include things like:
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| Determine the speed limit, and: a) highlight the limit on the
| speedometer, b) allow cruise control to be set as an offset of
| the posted limit, c) notify when over the limit by some amount,
| d) coordinate with existing optional speed limits (sometimes
| tied to specific keys)
|
| Also, intellegent speed assistance might help with surveying
| the actual speeds to get a better idea of safe speeds than
| posted limits.
|
| This is just limiting speed by cutting the fuel.
| mwint wrote:
| It's already each to survey actual speeds; a couple of those
| air-filled sensor lines stretched across the roadway at
| different intervals works fine.
| victor106 wrote:
| While we are at it, how about equipping all cars with a
| breathalyzer so if you have above normal alcohol levels the car
| won't start?
| [deleted]
| ghostpepper wrote:
| I have a feature in my car (2020 mazda) that attempts to read
| signs as you pass and determine the current speed limit, and I'd
| say that it's accurate 60-70% of the time but nowhere near 100%.
| Even if the technology was there, I'm not sure this would be a
| good idea, but until it is - it's definitely a bad idea.
| milkey_mouse wrote:
| That's pretty cool. Are you sure it's trying to read the signs,
| as opposed to consulting a pre-made map of speed limits at the
| current GPS location?
| Closi wrote:
| Most cars do this from cameras - mobileye has been selling
| this capability for a while as an OEM.
| konschubert wrote:
| If the speed limits are too low in places, they should be raised.
|
| But many times my life has been endangered by a speeding car.
| There is always a trade off between too much policing and too
| little policing. I think that speeding has been tolerated for far
| too long. I think the world will be a better place if a scalable
| technical solution is implemented.
| mwint wrote:
| They may get better responses, and compliance, if this was
| instead billed as a pedal detent for "current speed limit
| please". The current name just sounds Orwellian.
|
| Basically like cruise control, but only when the gas pedal is in
| a certain position.
|
| Bonus points if you have a dial for "speed limit + n" in the US,
| because if I tried to drive the speed limit all the time in my
| state I'd get run over.
| pedrovhb wrote:
| I've seen "unofficial" speed limit signs put up by residents of a
| given location. They look exactly like official signs, and I
| imagine it's tricky to properly police this. I wonder if this
| system opens up an attack surface for bad actors to intentionally
| modify speed limits to either lower or higher than official ones.
|
| Reminds me of the guy who managed to make Google Maps report a
| traffic jam by pushing a cart full of smartphones around [0],
| except this one affects your hardware by automatically cutting
| off throttle and doesn't require drivers to rely on an app.
|
| Also, from the article:
|
| > "How will I enjoy my recreational driving when ISA systems come
| into force? Same way I do right now: in slow old sheds that would
| only break the national speed limit if you pushed them off a
| cliff."
|
| So it's pushing people who drive for fun to do so in older
| vehicles with correspondingly older safety technology.
| Interesting.
|
| [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/google-maps-traffic-
| jam-99-s...
| joosters wrote:
| The attack surface was already there: people put up real-
| looking speed limit signs and it fools drivers. No extra
| technology is needed.
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