[HN Gopher] Buttondown is a small, elegant tool for producing ne...
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       Buttondown is a small, elegant tool for producing newsletters
        
       Author : memorable
       Score  : 71 points
       Date   : 2022-05-03 12:22 UTC (10 hours ago)
        
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       | peter_l_downs wrote:
       | Big fan of Buttondown as a recipient of the newsletters. Seems to
       | work just right. Also a big fan of Justin, the author.
        
       | Kleptine wrote:
       | Heartily recommend it! We've been using it for a while and it's
       | been great.
       | 
       | The support is great too.
        
       | shortformblog wrote:
       | I'm a big fan of Justin's work on Buttondown (though, as a
       | newsletter creator, I tend to roll my own on things). He's
       | created a really unique service that a lot of folks who are sick
       | of the Substack/Revue approach will find benefit in.
        
       | noduerme wrote:
       | Yikes. This is a brave position to put yourself in; kudos. Is it
       | tough to deal with deliverability, esp w/o control over what
       | clients send out...?
        
         | jmduke wrote:
         | (I run Buttondown.)
         | 
         | It is certainly trickier than I expected at the onset of
         | starting the project (which is true of pretty much everything
         | related to the email space), but not overly onerous. Most of my
         | risk lies less in content and more in recipient, and I pour
         | most of my efforts into subscriber validation during onboarding
         | & activation.
        
           | lbotos wrote:
           | Curious: I write a newletter to 50 friends and send through
           | mailgun. Apple seems to be the most strict for delivery. If I
           | write the word payment (I wrote a fiction essay with the word
           | payment) I'll get soft blocked.
           | 
           | Does that track with your experience?
           | 
           | I think it'd be a really cool blog post if you had the time
           | to just share what you see.
        
             | rmbyrro wrote:
             | Looks like their AI spam filter is pretty sophisticated
        
       | avinassh wrote:
       | If anyone looking for an open source alternative, check out
       | listmonk, it's pretty slick!
       | 
       | https://listmonk.app/
        
         | klelatti wrote:
         | listmonk does look awesome but I couldn't see how you could
         | make newsletters available to read on the web too.
        
       | D13Fd wrote:
       | Too bad they don't have native RSS integration, looking for
       | something to replace Mailerlite.
        
         | jmduke wrote:
         | Agreed: this is probably the one feature I'm currently most
         | embarrassed of not having, FWIW! (You can accomplish it with
         | Zapier at the moment, but I'm tired of having to give that as a
         | halfway answer.)
        
       | katabasis wrote:
       | I just started using this service. My partner and I just had a
       | baby and we wanted a way to share periodic updates with friends
       | and family that was not dependent on social media. The simplicity
       | of the service is a real breath of fresh air and everything seems
       | to "just work". Recipients seem to appreciate it as well (one
       | called it "classy").
       | 
       | Buttondown seems like a complete departure from the typical
       | growth-hacked, venture-backed, over-engineered "products" in the
       | SAAS space and I'm here for it.
        
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       | exolymph wrote:
       | Buttondown is wonderful. I now use the newsletter service that is
       | bundled with Ghost managed hosting, but I have fond memories of
       | Buttondown. The quick, actually human customer support is a
       | particular boon.
        
       | dhr wrote:
       | I really like buttondown, but I stopped using it. The main issue
       | was that mail would go into spam more often than other newsletter
       | providers (I checked this against substack, mailchimp, revue, and
       | tinyletter).
       | 
       | Any reason why buttondown in particular would be more affected by
       | this? Or maybe it's just me.
        
         | remorses wrote:
         | Buttondown uses AWS simple email service, maybe it's that
         | 
         | In my experience Revue is the worst in deliverability
        
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       | nullfish wrote:
       | How does this compare to TinyLetter? (Been using them for years,
       | no complaints)
        
         | paulgb wrote:
         | I've used both. They're fairly similar (at least for my very
         | basic needs), but Buttondown isn't owned by Intuit, which is a
         | win in my book.
        
           | avinassh wrote:
           | What's wrong with Intuit? Do they have some bad reputation
        
             | GavinMcG wrote:
             | https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-
             | turbotax-20-year-f...
        
         | twapi wrote:
         | https://buttondown.email/comparisons/tinyletter
        
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