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When hits were stored on floppy disk and created with an Atari ST
(2020)
Author : assttoasstmgr
Score : 35 points
Date : 2022-05-01 07:40 UTC (15 hours ago)
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| layer8 wrote:
| Also Jesus Jones' album _Perverse_ from 1993 (five years before
| Fatboy Slim's release), which I highly recommend:
| https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_(album)
|
| > Perverse [alledgedly] "enjoys the historical distinction of
| being the first album recorded entirely (except for Edwards'
| vocals) on computer." The band recorded the entire album onto
| floppy disks in Edwards' house, which were then used on his
| computer to turn the music into "zeroes and ones". [...] Although
| the band were ridiculed at the time for the recording process, it
| later became an influential technique.
| quickthrower2 wrote:
| Kudos for them calling a track "Zeroes and ones" back in 1993.
| Wonder how many non-geek people knew about zeros and ones then!
| tzs wrote:
| I've wondered a similar than about the song "Silicone on
| Sapphire" [1] from The Clash's album "Sandinista!" from late
| 1980. That song is a dub version of the music from an earlier
| song on that album, "Washington Bullets", but with the lyrics
| replaced by a couple voices on the left and right just
| speaking mostly computer geek phrases back and forth.
|
| [1] Yes, "Silicon on Sapphire" would have made more sense but
| they used "Silicone" in the title.
| classichasclass wrote:
| My copy of Tangerine Dream's Optical Race proudly says in the
| liner notes it was done on an Atari ST. Bet Tramiel didn't pay a
| penny for that kind of product placement, either.
| karmakaze wrote:
| > Fatboy Slim - When hits were stored on a floppy disk and
| created with an Atari ST
|
| Cool. I remember the ongoing, excruciating wait for the Amiga
| Lorraine to be consumer ready. It was supposed to have MIDI, but
| as fortune would have it, got dropped and was added to the Atari
| ST that became the musicians choice.
| jameshart wrote:
| This triggered a long lost memory of seeing an interview with
| Norman Cook in the pre-Fatboy days in an Atari ST magazine. The
| internet archive knows all, so here he is, geeking out about midi
| ports with Zero magazine in 1991:
|
| https://archive.org/details/zero-magazine-07/page/n95/mode/2...
| Rodeoclash wrote:
| Wow, Zero. That's a trip down memory lane.
|
| I spent a large chunk of my formative early teenage years
| buying Zero and other magazines like it for the cover disks
| (they were published even all the way down in New Zealand).
|
| Thanks for the article, I'll just read through the magazine
| until I get to it :)
| quickthrower2 wrote:
| As I remember, the reason people kept using Atari and not PCs for
| music is the sound capability and reliable clock timing.
|
| Reminds me of microcomputer programmer back on the Acorn
| Electron, writing machine code that relied on the 1Mhz clock
| speed for timing - so you would order the instructions so that
| things happened at the right time - was fun.
| huachimingo wrote:
| Now you can make music with clones of trackers ported to modern
| platforms:
|
| http://schismtracker.org/
|
| https://milkytracker.org/
|
| The main problem is finding samples.
| nonrandomstring wrote:
| I did all my sequencing on a ST Mega 4 for years using that
| version of Cubase that everyone had back in the bof-bof-bof rave
| music days. The reason techno musicians loved it, and stuck with
| Ataris WAY past their natural life, was the MIDI timing. The UART
| on the ST was clocked absolutely rock solid. Remember this was
| before DAWs and so most of the gear was external - synthesisers
| and samplers - so you needed really fine real-time accuracy.
| Nothing else beat the Atari ST.
| primitiveape wrote:
| It took me a while to realize why my PC-based MIDI setup never
| "felt" right. It wasn't until I replaced it with an Akai MPC-60
| style hardware sequencer that my MIDI compositions finally had
| that "thing" - idiosyncratic timing that felt good and made you
| bop along to the beat.
|
| Missed the Atari age entirely.
| mattbee wrote:
| I still love the story of White Town who made Your Woman in 1997:
|
| https://www.wired.com/1997/06/white-town/
|
| _Both the single and my album were made with an old Tascam 688
| multitrack tape recorder, an Atari ST, and a free sequencer disc
| I got from the front of a computer magazine because I couldn 't
| afford a "proper" sequencer._
|
| It's a great interview from 1997.
|
| Sent to a radio station and was #1 in 4 weeks. Still a banger:
|
| https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVL-zZnD3VU
| bitwize wrote:
| British electronic musicians and the Atari ST went together
| like James Bond and the Walther PPK. Like Lisp programmers and
| Emacs. You get the idea.
|
| To name two of my favorites: The KLF actually special-thanked
| Atari in the liner notes of _The White Room_. Imogen Heap 's
| first computer was an Atari ST she got when she was 12, and she
| immediately began making music on it.
| daneel_w wrote:
| In the 90s I spent _a lot_ of time with Cubase on my 1040STFM
| alongside other MIDI sequencers on the Amiga. I found both Cubase
| v2.xx and v3.10 (which I think was the last Atari version
| Steinberg released) to be somewhat clumsy and slow to work with
| due to plenty of editing operations, even some basic such, having
| to be performed in roundabout ways, and because of Cubase being
| sluggish UI-wise. The sluggishness was in some part owed to the
| ST /STF/STFM being lesser hardware on the graphics side. The STe
| and of course the Mega offered a better experience. Both v2 and
| v3 also suffered from the problem that, while they did run on an
| Atari with 1 MB of RAM, they every so often crashed from memory
| leaks/shortage. RAM expansions for the Atari 520/1040 were
| unfortunately a complicated topic compared to the cheap and
| ubiquitous peripheral they were for the Amigas. In contrast, all
| the MIDI sequencers I used on the Amiga were even on just 1 MB of
| available RAM fast, smooth and efficient tools to work with.
| Though none of them had the... how to put it... last pinch of
| "fancy features" that Cubase offered. Nor did the Amigas have a
| built-in MIDI interface, but such cost only $30 - or $10 in
| components if you were handy enough to build your own.
| FabHK wrote:
| Maybe interesting for nostalgia:
|
| There is an Atari ST emulator for the Mac,
| http://hatari.tuxfamily.org or brew install
| hatari
| johnvaluk wrote:
| Hatari is also available on Linux and includes a Falcon
| emulator for those of us who lusted after one but were never
| able to purchase it.
| aasasd wrote:
| Here's also a demonstration of using a sampler and a tracker with
| an Amiga, all from around 1990:
| https://youtube.com/watch?v=i9MXYZh1jcs
|
| _"Aaaand we 're out of memory."_
|
| (There's also the humor of sampling Coldcut, who themselves were
| wizards of audiovisual sampling, at least for their time.)
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