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First Reflective LCD indoor monitor - 32" FullHD true-color 60Hz
Author : conaclos
Score : 85 points
Date : 2022-04-29 11:29 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.sunvisiondisplay.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.sunvisiondisplay.com)
| h-w wrote:
| Need this in my laptop and phone YESTERDAY.
|
| Isn't 1080x1920 very few pixels for a screen this size?
| conaclos wrote:
| Yeah I wondering the same think. All my screen are FullHD,
| however they are smaller (21" / 23").
|
| I could like a smaller screen - e.g. 21". This could also be
| cheaper and more affordable.
| stefan_ wrote:
| Yeah it feels like they are targeting the wrong market. Could
| certainly be the display of choice for battery applications.
| xwowsersx wrote:
| Looks great. $1,549 is a bit steep :(
| danaos wrote:
| Interesting. Would't this be the ideal ebook reader display?
| kgbcia wrote:
| but eink doesn't refresh at 60hz. it's static. for text eink,
| but for video rlcd handles it better
| goosedragons wrote:
| No, it'd be a terrible ebook reader display. RLCDs are very
| hard to view in poor light especially color ones and don't have
| the same perfect viewing angles.
|
| For mostly static monochrome content like text in an eBook eInk
| is a good fit. There was a few reflective LCD eReaders in the
| late 2000s, early 2010s but they fizzled out pretty quick once
| eInk devices reached an acceptable price range. Their only
| value was being cheaper.
| culopatin wrote:
| After seeing how the translucent Apple logo on some MacBooks let
| the sun in through the back of the screen, I always wondered why
| no one made a translucent screen backing so you could put the
| back of the laptop against the sun and get more light in
| Severian wrote:
| 10 bit color would be nice. I'd love to see this technology
| mature to that.
| kgbcia wrote:
| i see tcl has an rlcd tablet called nxtpaper for those interested
| Stevvo wrote:
| Am I correct in understanding that in a dark room this monitor
| would unusable?
| throwntoday wrote:
| It actually sounds more appealing than you would think. You
| could for instance run warmer lighting in your office after
| sunset and the display would not be blasting blue light in your
| face until bedtime. Great idea but I'll wait til the price
| comes down.
| hypertele-Xii wrote:
| Yes. There is no backlight; the screen doesn't emit any light
| whatsoever by itself.
| alisonkisk wrote:
| Yes, same as paper.
| fuzzythinker wrote:
| At first I thought "Lower power consumption" vs. e-ink may be a
| fat finger copy/paste. After searching for color e-ink power
| consumption, I find the chart at rdot [1] sums it up pretty well.
| If e-ink is being used as a monitor, its power consumption will
| still be much better vs. LCD, but it won't have the almost zero
| power profile of static e-ink rendering.
|
| If price, resolution, and quality keeps up, it won't be just for
| outdoors. It may eat up most of the portable monitor/laptop
| market in not too distant future.
|
| [1] https://rdotdisplays.com/articles/the-most-energy-
| efficient-...
| vanattab wrote:
| This is really cool but I would want basicly the opposite. I want
| a laptop with this display for use outdoors and the plug in to a
| docking station with regular monitor for indoor/night use. Is
| there a technology for adding a backlighting to reflective lcd
| displays. Could a material like a one way mirror behind the lcd
| so you could use the display back light in low light conditions.
| conaclos wrote:
| A simple external light source could be enough?
|
| The screen made already a descent job in "dark" places [1].
|
| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehqj0W3koP0
| mszcz wrote:
| I recall old Thinkpads had a little lamp at the top of the
| screen as an early keyboard light. I guess we've come full
| circle and that ancient lighting technology will make a come
| back ;)
| orril wrote:
| the technology for using this in low light is called a lamp!
|
| in all seriousness, eink devices use something called front
| lights, which are embedded in the side of the tablet or device
| and project light from the edge of the screen. it works very
| well, even allowing red or amber light coloration which is
| great on the eyes. i have read that front lighting adds a
| little bit of thickness to a device, though my devices with the
| technology seem just as then as any of my regular lcd devices.
| DoingIsLearning wrote:
| What you describe around a two-mode screen is basically the
| whole IP around the transflective displays made by 'Pixel Qi'
| (Unrelated to google pixel).
|
| I know they made a few devices and saw some projects of people
| retrofitting them in acer and thinkpad laptops. For a period
| maybe 10 years ago adafruit also sold the display and driver as
| a standalone. Then I assume they went bust (around 2015,
| according to wikipedia).
|
| Would be great if someone made those again to retrofit on
| business laptops.
|
| Edit: here is a demo with the transflective and light-up mode
| of the Qi10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi6DbFyZde8
| pcdoodle wrote:
| I love it. Hope they get some stock soon.
| blenderdt wrote:
| Does anyone know why this is the first reflective LCD monitor? Is
| it demand?
|
| Because as far as I know reflective LCDs came before backlit LCDs
| and have been around for over 30 years.
| goosedragons wrote:
| Demand and practicality. It's much harder to use a RLCD.
| Remember how everyone used to complain about how bad the GBA
| screen was and how bright a light you needed to view it? Early
| laptops had RLCDs too but those are harder to use on a plane or
| train and color only makes it harder.
| spydum wrote:
| I know it says indoor but I wonder how these would do outside at
| a high glare setting like a beach? Or an array for outdoor
| signage? Competing with the sun it's pretty tough
| teruakohatu wrote:
| At $1,549 the price does not seem excessive. If it works it
| should be a lot more practical than eink moniters with a 60hz
| refresh rate.
| conaclos wrote:
| World's First Reflective LCD computer monitor for indoor use. It
| is a 32" screen FullHD True-color (16.7 million colors) 60Hz
| without backlight. Because no backlight is needed, the screen is
| very thin and have very low energy consumption. It can also be
| used at sun-light.
|
| An unboxing/first impression is available on yt [1]
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| [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehqj0W3koP0
| westmeal wrote:
| Interesting, very pricy but its pretty neat that it works that
| well outdoors. Reminds me of my old gameboy :)
| zardo wrote:
| I don't see a price at all. Of course, that usually means the
| price is extremely high.
| a9h74j wrote:
| About $1500, temporarily sold out, according to their "Shop"
| tab.
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