[HN Gopher] 64% of workers to consider quitting if asked to retu...
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64% of workers to consider quitting if asked to return to the
office full-time
Author : paulpauper
Score : 65 points
Date : 2022-04-29 15:13 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| ozzythecat wrote:
| I spent over 10 years at Amazon and considered quitting after my
| first three days. I continued to consider quitting every year for
| over 10 years.
|
| My point is / "considering quitting" is absolutely meaningless.
| It's a clickbait story.
| monsterofcookie wrote:
| Would like office away from home, but don't want commute or open
| floor plan.
| addaon wrote:
| I have an extremely hard time understanding how these surveys
| work, and what question people think they are answering. The
| headline number here doesn't seem unreasonable at first glance,
| but what does it actually mean?
|
| From the article: "About 71% of 18-to 24-year-olds said that they
| would consider looking for another job if their company insisted
| on them returning to the office full-time, compared to 61% of 35-
| to 44-year-olds and 56% of 45- to 54-year-olds, the report
| found."
|
| What was the actual question asked, though? Was it "Would you
| consider looking for another job if your company insisted on you
| returning to the office full-time?", word for word?
|
| How can any reasonable person answer "no" to a question in the
| form "Would you consider looking for another job if <condition>?"
| Given that so many people look for other jobs in any given period
| (say a decade), one has to assume that even more people (nearly
| all?) consider looking for another job in the same period. So
| without period restrictions in the question, why does <condition>
| matter to the answerer's answer? "Would you consider looking for
| another job? Yes, just like I would consider staying, consider
| what I'm having for dinner, etc."
|
| I know this seems nitpicky, especially in the context of a survey
| that doesn't /seem/ to say anything surprising, but I really
| don't understand if I'm just overthinking things, if the
| questions that are being asked in these surveys but not disclosed
| are actually much better phrased than it appears, or if people
| are often answering a very different question than what the
| survey thinks it's asking.
| boh wrote:
| I think we need to collectively remove credibility from survey
| based results.
|
| It's funny that persistently reporting surveys in the news was
| originally conceived as a marketing tactic to articulate to
| people what they think, yet even now it's popular to take it
| seriously.
| mejutoco wrote:
| Or they could report data on how the survey was conducted.
| devonbleak wrote:
| Yeah my take is this is pretty meaningless - I "consider"
| quitting my job at least once a month and I have complete
| flexibility with remote work.
|
| Anecdotally up until recently we had a "hybrid" location
| requirement on our positions and consistently lost candidates
| to other companies offering remote.
|
| "Are you willing to move?" "yes."
|
| "Do you have a strong preference to not move?" "also yes."
| doubled112 wrote:
| You can ask the questions based on the answers you want,
| right?
| [deleted]
| spfzero wrote:
| Probably 64% of workers "consider" quitting every week.
| TrevorJ wrote:
| The efficiency I gain from working out of a home office would be
| very hard to give up.
| mirntyfirty wrote:
| I calculated an extra 90 minutes per day that's required to
| work in an office. Once in an office there are a number of
| distractions that prevent deep work. Tasks are perfectly doable
| so long as they don't require much focus or creativity.
| TrevorJ wrote:
| I find that for creative or problem-solving type activities
| two things are pretty crucial:
|
| 1. You need to be able to get up out of your chair and go do
| something else for a bit with zero friction.
|
| 2. You need to be able to start early or work late when you
| are in a good flow state with zero friction.
|
| Working in an office destroys both of these almost completely
| because of the subtle (or not so subtle) pressure to do all
| your work in one contiguous 8-hour stretch each day where any
| time spent out of your seat is not considered work, even
| though many thorny problems have been solved during a walk or
| a workout, etc.
| postalrat wrote:
| What makes sense when 20% of employees are more productive at
| home and 80% are less?
| infamouscow wrote:
| This convinces me the corporate media is genuinely stupid.
|
| The threshold for publication needs to be higher than stating
| obvious sentiments felt cross all cultures and throughout
| history. Despite all that, the editor(s) let this story get
| published. And they wonder why their business is dying.
| bluefirebrand wrote:
| I would have no choice, personally. My company operates in
| different provinces than I live in so it would be uprooting my
| life to live in a different city. That's non-negotiable to me.
| boh wrote:
| 98% of workers consider quitting all the time.
| westmeal wrote:
| Hear hear
| starlight_nomad wrote:
| The other 2% just quit.
| postalrat wrote:
| 99% of workers would probably consider quitting their jobs if
| they were given $100 million.
|
| No, 100% of workers would consider it. 99% of them would quit.
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