[HN Gopher] 'Bossware is coming for almost every worker': the so...
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       'Bossware is coming for almost every worker': the software is
       watching you
        
       Author : bryanrasmussen
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2022-04-27 18:06 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | kurupt213 wrote:
       | I think it's unrealistic to expect to be allowed to work from
       | home and not be monitored by accountability tools
        
       | nonrandomstring wrote:
       | > Computer programmer and remote work advocate David Heinemeier
       | Hansson has been waging a one-company campaign against the
       | vendors of the technology. Early in the pandemic he announced
       | that the company he co-founded, Basecamp, which provides project
       | management software for remote working, would ban vendors of the
       | technology from integrating with it.
       | 
       | I'm looking for other examples like Hansson as research for my
       | next book "Ethics for Hackers", since a key audience is
       | entrepreneurs and developers taking a principled, active stand
       | against technofascism and pathological control fetishes.
        
       | guilhas wrote:
       | These softwares would sound interesting for personal monitoring,
       | and share interesting stuff, like the old Wakoopa
       | 
       | But your boss filming you all day to see if you're picking
       | boogers instead of working sounds scary
       | 
       | Management loves to implement these kinds of control that they
       | don't have to go through
       | 
       | Anyway I can spend an entire day configuring my home server and
       | no one can tell if I am working or not
        
       | arran-nz wrote:
       | Reminds me of Manna, a profound story which covers this theme.
       | 
       | https://marshallbrain.com/manna
        
       | fxtentacle wrote:
       | I predict we'll soon have virtual USB keyboards provided by a
       | Raspberry PI with an open source "productivity simulation"
       | software running. If companies want people to score highly on
       | activity metrics, some workers will do just that: Score highly on
       | the metrics.
       | 
       | I mean for some jobs, work has been mostly performative for quite
       | a while anyway, so then this is the logical next step.
       | 
       | Slightly unrelated: I'd also love an app that modifies my webcam
       | stream so that I'm always staring at the camera. That way, I can
       | read blogs and nobody will notice.
        
       | mc4ndr3 wrote:
       | I have to fill out two timesheets in separate systems. What the
       | fuck, 2022? I would have expected society to move beyond
       | timesheets at all in this millennium. But the bean counters
       | always win.
        
         | andrewmcwatters wrote:
         | Timesheets are a fact of life, like taxes. Timesheets also have
         | to exist in some organizations specifically because of taxes.
         | Many organizations capitalize software.
        
         | fxtentacle wrote:
         | I require my employees to check in and out using an online
         | time-tracking tool. Not because I'm evil, but because my office
         | safety insurance requires me to document when people come and
         | go, presumably so that they can refuse paying for someone
         | falling off their chair in their free time. Plus I need precise
         | per-day hour metrics for tax filings.
        
           | scsilver wrote:
           | Could you elaborate on the tax aspect?
        
           | krageon wrote:
           | It is your prerogative to not work with a company that
           | requires you to track people who don't have much of a choice
           | (because let's face it: Laziness is evil, and most
           | corporations are just as lazy :) ).
        
       | raxxorrax wrote:
       | Just quit these companies. Market allows for it and when you do
       | clearly communicate the reason. Also building tools to disrupt
       | the metrics should be easy. Company time of course. If they ask
       | for a high score a dependable worker delivers.
       | 
       | I wish they would name the large retailer. This is valuable
       | information for workers to be informed. It is no libel in this
       | case.
        
         | daniel-cussen wrote:
         | No, "Just quit these companies" is the 100% worst possible,
         | least effective response. They act collectively, you realize?
         | So the worker should fight the metric. Just ask one other
         | worker who is as angry as you are, one with lower status than
         | you ideally, and tell your employer "BOTH OF US are quitting if
         | you add bossware to EITHER of us!" Makes it a little better,
         | two versus one. Or hey, if some bosses in the company you work
         | for add it and others don't, Oh Hey, just change department! No
         | need for collective action if the boss doesn't act
         | collectively.
         | 
         | A poster that used to frequent this forum said, "always fight
         | the metric." You always have to fight the metric, in the end
         | you will be JUDGED and that JUDGMENT will determine your
         | status. Metrics are all harmful.
         | 
         | And beyond that, never buy into promotions, they're a mirage.
         | There will be no promotions for the most part now that the
         | population has peaked in the Western World. You get I don't
         | know, $15000 and that's what you live on.
         | 
         | And Mexico is fusing with America at this point.
         | 
         | I should explain. There is en masse immigration under the
         | smiling eyes of the president, but like an order of magnitude
         | greater than it used to be. Order of magnitude (literally 10x)
         | for Brazilians, Haitians, Cubans, Venezuelans, Colombians.
         | Mexicans? Who knows. Hard to count if there's no counting.
         | There's no counting. You just walk and you're in. No
         | enforcement. In fact the biggest form of enforcement is the
         | Feds cracking down on "la migra" meaning Department of Homeland
         | Security.
         | 
         | So let us not speak of problems, opinions, whether it's good or
         | bad. But the concept of the American worker earning a premium
         | wage purely because of his nationality is vanishing if it has
         | not vanished already. I heard it described as a luxury the
         | United States could afford to keep its people happy. Or did
         | once.
         | 
         | So now we enter a world of much lower incomes than Americans
         | had, but also with much greater uniformity. What do you get?
         | You get $15000. Run out of money? Budget better! Don't eat for
         | a few days! It is always better to fast than accept offers of
         | credit.
        
       | daly wrote:
       | Easy fix. hit F1 :-)
       | 
       | Humor, for those too young to know about the "boss" key in games.
        
         | bloqs wrote:
         | I always knew bosskey as a tiny windows app uses for switching
         | screens at school. Fantastic.
        
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