[HN Gopher] Incremental Learning
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Incremental Learning
Author : Tomte
Score : 65 points
Date : 2022-04-26 15:31 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| henry_pulver wrote:
| What actually is incremental learning?
|
| The 'What is Incremental Learning?' section seems deliberately
| poorly written. Incremental learning is the
| fastest and the most comprehensive way of learning available to
| students at the moment of writing (2013).
| Incremental learning is a consolidation of computer-based
| techniques that accelerate and optimize the process of learning
| from all conceivable material available in electronic form, and
| not only. Currently, SuperMemo is the only software
| that implements incremental learning. In SuperMemo, the student
| feeds the program with all forms of learning material and/or data
| (texts, pictures, videos, sounds, etc.). Those learning materials
| are then gradually converted into durable knowledge that can last
| a lifetime.
| caslon wrote:
| It's a system for automating learning.
|
| You have thirty books. Instead of taking a month for each book,
| getting value sequentially, you read all thirty books at the
| same time, with the software splitting it up for you into tiny
| pieces, so you can soak them all in and get lots of knowledge
| simultaneously, rather than the sort of limited, controlled
| drip of knowledge from an individual work.
|
| It's surprisingly useful for things like language learning,
| where you don't really start with much understanding but books
| intend for your ability to change while reading; that said, the
| author uses it for _everything_ he consumes, even email.
|
| It's pretty interesting, if you're of the belief that knowledge
| compounds, or if you just don't really have the patience or
| attention span for individual works. Certainly isn't for
| everyone, and if you aren't willing to make your own tooling,
| the existing tooling is pretty bad.
| sva_ wrote:
| This made me wonder, which languages would be best learned
| together. Probably a pairing like Italian, French, Spanish
| would work well, as they're all Latin languages.
|
| Or perhaps it would be better to pair some languages which
| have defining differences.
| harperlee wrote:
| I think similar languages such as the ones you mention
| would be great; as a native spanish speaker I continue to
| find joyful coincidences and contrasts that help even
| better understanding my native tongue. For example, neither
| guardare (italian), nor regarder (french), have a direct
| reflection in spanish (guardar in spanish is to keep, or to
| look after, but not literally to look, which is mirar
| instead), but it is what a guardia does.
| rocketbop wrote:
| I'm not sure, but learning is certainly more than remembering
| things. Years ago I spent a lot of time typing CS things into
| Anki and practicing their recall. Eventually I realised that I
| didn't really have a good understanding of half the things I
| was memorising.
| Hakeemmidan wrote:
| Add some horizontal padding to the page: 1. Right-click,
| 'inspect'
|
| 2. Click on the 'console' tab in the newly opened inspection pane
|
| 3. Paste the following into the input field:
|
| document.getElementById('bodyContent').style = 'margin: 0 15%;'
|
| 4. Click 'Enter' or 'Return'
|
| PS: This isn't permanent. Doing a page refresh gets rid of it.
| layer8 wrote:
| The wiki version may have more readable formatting:
| https://help.supermemo.org/index.php?title=Incremental_learn...
| supertofu wrote:
| Useful website, in principle. HORRIBLE READING EXPERIENCE. My
| eyes gave up after a couple seconds.
| bluedays wrote:
| They're still incrementally developing the website.
| bluedays wrote:
| Or as I like to call it "learning".
| imperistan wrote:
| I use the supermemo software. It works great for learning but the
| software itself is a bloated mess
| pfkurtz wrote:
| I keep a few math books and a variety of dual-language paperbacks
| in the bathroom. It's become a really important part of my
| intellectual diet.
| Der_Einzige wrote:
| Seems to not be all that related to
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_learning
|
| also known as "Online learning"
|
| Any model that can be continuously trained (this includes neural
| networks) is an "incremental learner".
| qumpis wrote:
| I never heard people advocating for this approach (people like
| Michael Nielsen and alike). Anyone is in reseach and had a
| positive experience with it?
|
| It makes sense that context-independent SRS are not suited for
| incremental reading, so I wonder what's stopping from this
| approach filling the gap. Is it solely pricing issue?
| jayde2767 wrote:
| Books I have read [1,2,3] have all discussed the "incremental
| learning" approach without calling it that. They frame it in
| the context of daily repetitions of the material in order to
| gradually solidify it in your mind and commit it to longer-term
| memory. However, their approach goes well beyond that and
| explores many additional factors that play into the learning
| process as well.
|
| The fact remains, in order to learn ANYTHING, there are no
| "tricks" for most of us. It takes effort, engagement, focus,
| self-discipline, commitment, and consistent application of the
| material, call it repetition whatever.
|
| I have not found any short-cuts and while there may be
| techniques that might help with memorization (mnemonics and
| phonetics etc) your brain is dependent upon the amount of rest
| you get, the quality of your diet, the degree to which your
| brain is not under external stress while it is engaged in
| learning and a desire and willingness to be engaged with your
| topic, IMO.
|
| [1] The Science of Self-learning, Hollins, Peter ISBN:
| 978-1731416735 (Although Hollins goes into more detail around
| how to read, self-discipline etc.)
|
| [2] The Self-Learning Blueprint, Hollins, Peter ISBN:
| 978-1077241275 (This book, from the same author in [1] is
| completely different in that he addresses the 4 pillars of
| learning: Transform and Synthesize Knowledge, Combine the New
| with the Familiar, Self-testing and Retrieval, and Absorption)
|
| [3] Teach Yourself How to Learn, MacGuire et al, ISBN:
| 978-1620367568 (This book treats metacognition, positive
| emotions and motivation as the cornerstones of Learning)
| meristohm wrote:
| Anki (http://ankisrs.net/ and https://ankiweb.net/about) is what
| I'm familiar with. All versions are freely available except the
| iOS version ($25). I use it to memorize all sorts of things,
| including phone numbers (something I used to do as a kid before
| mobile phones), birthdays, vocabulary (English and other
| languages), and poetry.
|
| Reading a book and then taking a walk is a form of incremental
| learning. Reading a page and pausing to question yourself about
| what you just read is incremental learning (see Make It Stick:
| the science of successful learning, by Brown, Roediger, and
| McDaniel, 2014).
|
| SuperMemo is one way to go about it, but it seems like icing on a
| readily-available cake.
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