[HN Gopher] The Future of Open Source: On Imperialism and Idealism
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       The Future of Open Source: On Imperialism and Idealism
        
       Author : marttt
       Score  : 16 points
       Date   : 2022-04-25 14:59 UTC (8 hours ago)
        
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       | rektide wrote:
       | Fun & accurate, great set up, but wrong conclusions. The author
       | ultimately paints a picture of western idealistic hacking &
       | cybercommercial dominance, but they say this is enforced & backed
       | by once unchallenged but quickly crumbling dominance of
       | intellectual property rights & western legalistic
       | dominion/Imperialism.
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       | This worldview was an entertainable perspective in the
       | preconnected era, in the age of standalone software. But the
       | world today runs in an interconnected mode, is based on Services-
       | as-a-Software-Substitute (SaaSS). People & nations dont respect
       | the terms of service & licenses because they're in obesiance to
       | the Empire, they do it because they just want in on, want access
       | to the great vast online places that will kick em out of if they
       | start mucking with the terms of service. Companys operate in
       | cyberspaces lightly regulated supranational domain, and states
       | have minimal leverage they can apply to force behavior upon
       | greater cyberspace. Notably, EU is very much at the frontier of
       | layering in steep requirements & regulations, setting an example
       | for the rest of the world that any state has the freedom to make
       | demands & push around online entities in any way the state
       | pleases; somewhat ironic given what a boon to liberty &
       | possibility & enablememt the open framework of cyberspace has
       | created.
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       | Viewing the cyberspace we have as a legal framework the rest of
       | the world accepts is false. The internet is a dumb pipe, is
       | connectivity. Anything in the way of connectivity is quite
       | literally anti-internet. No nation or state may have their own
       | take, their own legalistic roadblocks that are internet: they
       | winniw down the whole to make a lesser thing below the internet
       | with their impositions. The privilege of being interconnected to
       | the global whole comes with a realizatuon that you are connecting
       | to other places that wont follow your rules. Contrary to what the
       | EU has insisted upon for itself.
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       | Putting aside the absoluteness lf Cyberspace supranationalism, I
       | dont see the clash & challenge this article describes as real.
       | The modern software world revolves around software running deep
       | inside data centers, not on our personal computers. Other mations
       | simply dont have the mainframes in their jurisdiction to boss
       | around or use force against, so rebuffing their business is
       | merely an impact on the bottom line. The legalistic modes are
       | self enforcing, the terms of service dont need marshals to be
       | enforced: we simply turn off access to violators, cancel their
       | accounts. There has not been an opportunity for non-Western
       | nations to misbehave or flout the supranational cyberspace
       | standards, because the new things we want to use are online
       | services, or deeply integrated with services. This isnt
       | imperialism or legalism, it's just a matter of were the
       | desireable software runs & what possibilities remain to those not
       | running the data centers.
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       | Changing topics again, peering at my crystal ball, one of the
       | things i really enjoyed about this article was itcs setup & it's
       | exploration of the mature of open source. Drawing my own
       | projections, I think the value based western mode ultimately
       | shines through. Individual empowermemt & embracing possibility,
       | idealistic hacking, & the whole panolopy of values that embrace
       | letting people get good, letting them explore- it creates
       | positive vibrancy, is how energy & creativity sustain & maintain.
        
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