[HN Gopher] Ask HN: How do you feel about Chrome becoming a brow...
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       Ask HN: How do you feel about Chrome becoming a browser monopoly?
        
       With Firefox losing more and more ground with each passing year,
       how do you feel about Chrome getting (even more) of a monopoly
       worldwide?  Should we start pushing harder for people to use
       Firefox?
        
       Author : tribejri
       Score  : 6 points
       Date   : 2022-04-23 21:54 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
       | McLaren_Ferrari wrote:
       | Same as I felt when the government said Microsoft had a browser
       | monopoly.
       | 
       | They (Microsoft and Google) both got to this point fair and
       | square by providing ease of use and quality of life to the
       | consumer.
       | 
       | Monopolies happening due to competence, great execution or even
       | luck are not a problem.
       | 
       | People should be not alarmed by corporate monopolies as long as
       | Federal govt. retains monopoly of B2 bombers (and violence in
       | general) the latter always retains the capability to disrupt a
       | corporate monopoly.
        
         | runjake wrote:
         | Microsoft's monopoly was anything but fair. They did all sorts
         | of shady, anti-competitive things WRT browsers, Windows, and
         | Linux.
         | 
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor...
         | .
        
           | McLaren_Ferrari wrote:
           | > "The issue central to the case was whether Microsoft was
           | allowed to bundle its flagship Internet Explorer (IE) web
           | browser software with its Windows operating system".
           | 
           | Netscape wanted to make money selling the browser, time has
           | proved they were way wrong in their calculus as consumers are
           | not willing to pay for a browser.
           | 
           | Hence it comes with the OS to give to the consumer the
           | capability to go on the internet as soon as they turn on
           | their computer for the first time.
           | 
           | Time also proved that browsers are not where the money is,
           | search and social media is. Netscape missed search and made
           | Microsoft miss search too due to he DOJ lawsuit, but it's a
           | poor consolation given where Microsoft is today and where
           | Netscape is today.
           | 
           | So Netscape was completely delusional, they went to cry to
           | the feds, Microsoft got distracted defending themselves from
           | the aforementioned feds and Google and Facebook benefited the
           | dispute.
        
       | rossdavidh wrote:
       | I still use Firefox primarily, and Brave on my phone, but I don't
       | like the way things are headed. I don't know if "pushing" will
       | change much. Firefox probably needs to be better on data security
       | and adblocking in a way which Google is unwilling to match?
        
       | llimos wrote:
       | Generally not great, but there are advantages to using something
       | different to everyone else. For example, a lot of paywalled sites
       | can be bypassed using Firefox's reader mode, and it's not worth
       | the sites' effort to try and block it.
        
       | Shadonototra wrote:
       | firefox had its chance, they decided to raise the salary of their
       | CEO instead of investing in the browser
       | 
       | at least google improves chrome year after year
        
       | kurupt213 wrote:
       | Chrome is malware
        
       | trinovantes wrote:
       | Not great. When standards become whatever Google feels like it is
       | due to their market share, you end up breaking the web for users
       | outside of Chromium
       | 
       | I've recently found out that Firefox/Chrome treats viewport sizes
       | differently when zooming in/out. Which one is correct behavior? I
       | have no idea nor am I interested in digging through pages of RFCs
       | so I just ended up doing a user-agent check and use logic per
       | browser.
        
       | wetpaws wrote:
       | I'm not afraid of Google, but I'm afraid of inevitable
       | monoculture and stagnation
        
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